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jet bass fishing boat   I am looking to buy a used (or maybe a new) Boat.  I have had a couple over the last 10 years, but I am looking for comments.  I am currently looking at a Stratos 201 Pro Elite 1999, and a Champion Elite 203 1996, as well as a Triton TR21 1997. jet bass fishing boat I have heard some things about Triton not holding up in the big waters, but have not seen that and I do like their ride.  Any comments? * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.

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I am looking to buy a used (or maybe a new) Boat.

Check out the bass fishing home page DB’s:jet bass fishing boat boats and motors and bas boats for sale. The boats and motors board get’s heated up pretty good when a question like this is posted. good information and a very active board. www.wmi.org

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I am looking to buy a used (or maybe a new) Boat.

rec.boats.marketplace Guy A Ripley, TN WORK like you don’t need the money, LOVE like you’ve never been hurt,jet bass fishing boat  DANCE like nobody’s watching!

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Ok,      I am looking to buy a used (or maybe a new) Boat.  I have had a couple over the last 10 years, but I am looking for comments.  I am currently looking at a Stratos 201 Pro Elite 1999, and a Champion Elite 203 1996, as well as a Triton TR21 1997.  I have heard some things about Triton not holding up in the big waters, but have not seen that and I do like their ride.  Any comments?

1996 Champion 203 Elite?  I have a 1996 Champion 202 Elite.  Not sure that 203 was available in 1996, think it was either 1997 or 1998 that it replaced the 202 Elite.  Anyhow..   I love my boat.  It handles rough water with ease.  I have a Mariner 225 (1996) on her, and she runs about 68 mph. Plenty of storage space and comfortable seats.  I had a 1989 201 Stratos Pro before I purchased my Champion in late 1997.  My 89 Stratos was a really nice boat.  At times when I can’t make it to the lake I wonder why I spent more money to get a newer boat.jet bass fishing boat  Next trip out I appreciate the Champion.  I would definatley say you can’t go wrong with either one of these boats. Triton TR21 – not to familliar with the triton hulls other than a friend of mine had one that developed some severe cracks and stress fractures.  Triton did replace his boat no problem.  He loves the boat.  Has had no trouble with it since then. Any top name bass boat is going to be satisfactory.  Champion, Ranger, Stratos and Triton seem to be the top boats by far. Jay Stone El Paso, Texas

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I have to agree that a Champion holds very well in rough water because of their hull designs.  A friend of mine has a champion and I love riding in it.  I own a TR-21 with a 225 mercury on it.  It also holds well in rough water..in my opinion but that’s all that is…an opinion.   Good luck

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Most Boring Fishing Show Host strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass

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You know what was even more boring?strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass Reading you jealous fisherman whine about guys who have been there and done that, while you guys still dream about it on TV.

As members of the target audience,strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass  we have a right to complain when a television program does not meet our expectations. I for one have no problems with people who post messages saying they feel a particular host is not entertaining or the show is missing critical info that could make it better regardless of how great a fisherman the host is… –

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: And let’s talk about Bill Dance for a moment.strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass  I thought it was amazing : how many ads could be packed on a racing car until I caught a recent : show.  This man is a walking billboard for Quantum rods & reels, I say bring back “Fishing with Virgil Ward”!  This guy had the best fishing show of all times.

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: Amen to JOHNCDBASS!!!strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass  Envy is the same color green as a good largemouth. : Now as to most boring – Anytime I have to watch someone else fish when I’d : rather be on the lake – That’s boring. : Now – which do you thinks most stupid – my nomination is the idiot on “GO : FISH”? It seems to me that “Go Fish” is not really a fishing show.  Its more of a comedy show for 12 year olds.

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Hank has to be the slowest show on tnn, i miss more fishing shows : because Hank has put me to sleep, And that super long opening : after that ego trip about him winning there’s only enuf time left for : about 5 minutes of (usally crappie, or some pan fish with someones : kids) fishing Not to mention that his accent is a little hard on the ears.

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: Hank Parker. Roland Martin and Orlando Wilson tie for my vote. Roland isn’t as boring as he is annoying!

Let’s see now ..strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass… Just who does that leave?   I suppose Bill Dance wins as best host.  He’s the only other one not mentioned here EXCEPT for these hosts whose shows have long since gone off the air: Billy Westmoreland.   Smallmouth fisherman who dropped out of the Bass tournament circuit when they raised the size limit to 14″.  He claimed it would put anglers like him out of business.  Tells you a bit about his show. John Fox.   American Angler founder and Texas based fisherman.  Another boring host.

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Hank Parker.

Hank has to be the slowest show on tnn, i miss more fishing shows because Hank has put me to sleep, And that super long opening after that ego trip about him winning there’s only enuf time left for about 5 minutes of strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass (usally crappie, or some pan fish with someones kids) fishing — P.O. Box 7575  Jacksonville, Florida 32238 – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - When all is said and done, more is said then done.

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Hank has to be the slowest show on tnn, i miss more fishing shows : because Hank has put me to sleep, And that super long opening : after that ego trip about him winning there’s only enuf time left for : about 5 minutes of (usally crappie, or some pan fish with someones : kids) fishing Not to mention that his accent is a little hard on the ears.

Roland Martin and Orlando Wilson tie for my vote. Roland isn’t as boring as he is annoying!

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I have heard the name, but can’t put a face to

it. Jerry had a fishing show in syndication nationally about 10 years ago — Just before the glut of strealer ii bass fishing boat fish bass shows now on the air.  Back then, if you wanted to see a fishing show, you watched Jerry or the local yokels on the air.  The show covered all forms of fishing and traveled around the country.  Jerry always had a local guide to explain the techniques of catching the fish etc.  It wasn’t a BAD show if you had nothing better to do.  The trouble was it was long on the travelogue portion and short, very short, on the “how-to” portion. In Jimmy Houston’s Book, ‘Caught Me a Biggun’, he mentions that Orlando is a little too proud of his fishing skills.  I kind of got that impression by watching the show even before I read it.

Amen. John

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I often wonder what kind of audiance Parker thinks he’s appealing to. 10 year old kids telling me about water tempreture??? And Orlando Wilson is another case of the peter principle. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hank Parker. Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

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I often wonder what kind of audiance Parker thinks he’s appealing to. 10 year old kids telling me about water tempreture??? And Orlando Wilson is another case of the peter principle. Hank Parker. Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

Actually, as a group, I think the bass fishing shows are the worst. All the damned fish look exactly the same to me. Now, I like *catching* bass, but watching a bass fishing show? Yawn.  Same with fly fishing shows. — P.O. Box 7575  Jacksonville, Florida 32238 – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - I need a drink…where’s the SPACE BAR?

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You know what was even more boring? Reading you jealous fisherman whine about guys who have been there and done that, while you guys still dream about it on TV.

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Amen to JOHNCDBASS!!!  Envy is the same color green as a good largemouth. Now as to most boring – Anytime I have to watch someone else fish when I’d rather be on the lake – That’s boring. Now – which do you thinks most stupid – my nomination is the idiot on “GO FISH”? Lee

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And let’s talk about Bill Dance for a moment.  I thought it was amazing how many ads could be packed on a racing car until I caught a recent show.  This man is a walking billboard for Quantum rods & reels, Baitmate, Procraft boats, Fisher Marine, Strike King, Boat Buddy…need I go on?  At least your average show with Hank Parker gives you 1/2 hour of  fishing related material without brand name mania.  With Bill Dance, you get 15 minutes of gratuitous endorsements for a variety of products that wouldn’t fit in the average 35 foot bass boat!

The thing that kills me about the Bill Dance show is that not only is he the host of the program but he also appears in *every* commercial aired during the show. Sometimes it’s almost impossible to distinguish the commercials from the actual show. This dude is Bass Fishing’s Energizer Bunny of endorsements.

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And let’s talk about Bill Dance for a moment.  I thought it was amazing how many ads could be packed on a racing car until I caught a recent show.  This man is a walking billboard for Quantum rods & reels, Baitmate, Procraft boats, Fisher Marine, Strike King, Boat Buddy…need I go on?  At least your average show with Hank Parker gives you 1/2 hour of  fishing related material without brand name mania.  With Bill Dance, you get 15 minutes of gratuitous endorsements for a variety of products that wouldn’t fit in the average 35 foot bass boat! Just my opinion! Arlie

The thing that kills me about the Bill Dance show is that not only is he the host of the program but he also appears in *every* commercial aired during the show. Sometimes it’s almost impossible to distinguish the shows from the actual commercial. This dude is Bass Fishing’s Energizer Bunny of endorsements.

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And let’s talk about Bill Dance for a moment.  I thought it was amazing how many ads could be packed on a racing car until I caught a recent show.  This man is a walking billboard for Quantum rods & reels, Baitmate, Procraft boats, Fisher Marine, Strike King, Boat Buddy…need I go on?  At least your average show with Hank Parker gives you 1/2 hour of  fishing related material without brand name mania.  With Bill Dance, you get 15 minutes of gratuitous endorsements for a variety of products that wouldn’t fit in the average 35 foot bass boat! Just my opinion!

I really couldn’t agree more….but the thing that really gets me is the way he holds fish….it looks like he’s hyper-extending their jaws…. You would think that someone with that much exposure would know how to hold a Bass without destroying it’s lower jaw…. Just my opinion also… — “He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not, is a fool. Shun him. He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a child. Teach him. He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him. He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him.”—Author unkown

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I’ll have to second your opinion on Hank Parker.  As an adult, I can get mighty bored watching his show at times.  But, you had better bet that I park my 3-year old in front of it when I can.  I got hooked on Bass Fishing as an early teens kid on Hank’s show and Bill Dance’s show. Don’t knock ‘em because you already know everything they’re talking about — get your kids in front of the TV and get them hooked! Arlie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I sometimes think we in bass fishing get a little too caught up in the glamour of our boats and the technicalities of our tackle and our tournament strategies. We need to remember our roots in the sport. I started when I was nine. Maybe if Hank Parker didn’t talk on my level as a youngster I wouldn’t have kept interest in the sport. I know I’m being a little dramatic, but don’t be too critical of shows that don’t suit your level of fishing. Go out and practice on a lake if you don’t like the show. That’s the only place a fisherman really learns anything anyway. If kids don’t get involved in fishing they might be out on the streets or something worse. Of course, this is all my opinion, so take it as you like. Good fishing! Chris Sergeant I often wonder what kind of audiance Parker thinks he’s appealing to. 10 year old kids telling me about water tempreture??? And Orlando Wilson is another case of the peter principle. Hank Parker. Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

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And let’s talk about Bill Dance for a moment.  I thought it was amazing how many ads could be packed on a racing car until I caught a recent show.  This man is a walking billboard for Quantum rods & reels, Baitmate, Procraft boats, Fisher Marine, Strike King, Boat Buddy…need I go on?  At least your average show with Hank Parker gives you 1/2 hour of  fishing related material without brand name mania.  With Bill Dance, you get 15 minutes of gratuitous endorsements for a variety of products that wouldn’t fit in the average 35 foot bass boat! Just my opinion! Arlie

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Jerry McKinnis does the Fishin Hole on ESPN – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Who is Jerry McKinnis?  I have heard the name, but can’t put a face to it. In Jimmy Houston’s Book, ‘Caught Me a Biggun’, he mentions that Orlando is a little too proud of his fishing skills.  I kind of got that impression by watching the show even before I read it.

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I sometimes think we in bass fishing get a little too caught up in the glamour of our boats and the technicalities of our tackle and our tournament strategies. We need to remember our roots in the sport. I started when I was nine. Maybe if Hank Parker didn’t talk on my level as a youngster I wouldn’t have kept interest in the sport. I know I’m being a little dramatic, but don’t be too critical of shows that don’t suit your level of fishing. Go out and practice on a lake if you don’t like the show. That’s the only place a fisherman really learns anything anyway. If kids don’t get involved in fishing they might be out on the streets or something worse. Of course, this is all my opinion, so take it as you like. Good fishing! Chris Sergeant – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I often wonder what kind of audiance Parker thinks he’s appealing to. 10 year old kids telling me about water tempreture??? And Orlando Wilson is another case of the peter principle. Hank Parker. Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… : Hank Parker. : Hank has to be the slowest show on tnn, i miss more fishing shows : because Hank has put me to sleep, And that super long opening : after that ego trip about him winning there’s only enuf time left for : about 5 minutes of (usally crappie, or some pan fish with someones : kids) fishing Not to mention that his accent is a little hard on the ears. Roland Martin and Orlando Wilson tie for my vote. Roland isn’t as boring as he is annoying!

I don’t know about this season, but i found that last years Roland Martin shows might as well been a half hour Infomercial for Spiderwire Tim Smith

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Hank Parker. — P.O. Box 7575  Jacksonville, Florida 32238 – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - When all is said and done, more is said then done.

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Who is Jerry McKinnis?  I have heard the name, but can’t put a face to it. In Jimmy Houston’s Book, ‘Caught Me a Biggun’, he mentions that Orlando is a little too proud of his fishing skills.  I kind of got that impression by watching the show even before I read it.

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Hank Parker.

Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

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Hank Parker. Yeah he’s pretty bad, but Orlando is my nemesis.

I’ll second that!  I’ll watch 2 hours of Hank before I’d watch 30 minutes of Orlando.  How did this guy ever get on the air?  I guess being a friend of Ted Turner’s and wearing an Atlanta Braves hat may have something to do with it since the show was originally on TNT.  Yup, I’d put Orlando at the bottom of the list, one notch below Jerry McKinnis. John

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For the last two years I’ve gone to Lake Barkley used bass fishing boat fish bass for some bass fishing. I intend to go this year in the last week of April.  Both previous times  i went the second week in May.  This year the last in April.   One big problem always comes up.  I have trouble catchin’ fish.  In ‘97 i caught 3 keepers   in 5 full days of fishin.used bass fishing boat fish bass  In ‘96 1 keeper in 6 days. Man…..I need some help! ! Anyone got any advice where and how to catch some bass?  PLEASe !   :-) I’ll probably stay at the Eddy Creek lodge and will fish eddy and south to Donaldson & Hopson including Little River. Fishing mostly the east side of the lake.   Anyone know of any consistent spots?  Thanks for any help

Some of the best bass fishing used bass fishing boat fish bass I have found on Barkley is in Taylor Bay and Jake Fork. When the wind kicks up it will wash the shad across some nice structure. In April, I find hard bottom areas with deep water access if they are prespawn. I have fished Little River and found it to be heavily fished so it tends to be inconsistant for me, although I really like some of the areas in it. If you want some more info or to brainstorm a little then e-mail me and I’ll drag out the topos.used bass fishing boat fish bass I can’t make my yearly trip this year due to the birth of my son so someone else might as well take my spot there.

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For the last two years I’ve gone to Lake Barkley for some bass fishing. I intend to go this year in the last week of April.  Both previous times  i went the second week in May.  This year the last in April.   One big problem always comes up.  I have trouble catchin’ fish.  In ‘97 i caught 3 keepers   in 5 full days of fishin.  In ‘96 1 keeper in 6 days. Man…..I need some help! ! Anyone got any advice where and how to catch some bass?  PLEASe !   :-) I’ll probably stay at the Eddy Creek lodge and will fish eddy and south to Donaldson & Hopson including Little River. Fishing mostly the east side of the lake.   Anyone know of any consistent spots?  Thanks for any help

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when is the right time to use a nj used bass fishing boats baitcaster and when is the right time to use a spinning rig?  I have always used a spinning rig for everythign but the wife bought me a baitcaster for my birthday cuz she said its the only fishing this she saw that i didnt already have.nj used bass fishing boats. i ahve been having fun learning to use it but now i dont know when to use it…

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when is the right time to use a baitcaster and when is the right time to use a Dave

There is no right time, really.nj used bass fishing boats  It is form and function and personal preference.  When I first got one I threw spinner baits.  That would be a good place to start.  I couldn’t throw a crank bait then, now I have no trouble.  I used my spinner for Rapala’s and crank baits, tubes and curly tails.  Now I leave my spinning rod at home.  I use a ML action (12lb line) for tubes and such,nj used bass fishing boats  a M action (12lb again) for cranks and spinner baits and a MH action (17lb line) for Jig-n-pig. Experiment, see what you like.

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I use the baitcaster for everything that I can cast with it and use the spinning reel for the rest. Mark McCoy <a href=”http://members.aol.com/mmccoy01/index.html”McCoy’s Online Tackle Store</a  Bumpus Mills, Tennessee

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I use the baitcaster for everything that I can cast with it and use the spinning reel for the rest. Mark McCoy

What Mark said…me too!

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Any time you want a high degree of accuracy in your casting, go with the bait caster. Once your thumb gets educated, you should be able to feather a lure into any spot you wish, dropping it right on the spot, with a minimum of disturbance- whether you are side arm casting, flipping or pitching. VERY difficult to do with any other type of rod and reel combo IMHO- altho I have heard of a few people that can feather in a spinning rig. MY index finger isn’t long enough to do that!         I do use the spinning rod to skip tubes to the back sides of dock, etc, as I can snap the rig in a whip cracking side arm type of motion, and I use it for very light lures and inline spinners.         Bob– Robert E. Longshore

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IMHO….Spinning gear…Light weight lures; Short casts under branches; Low under-dock type casts; Into-the-wind situations; I NEVER USE spinning gear when I am using “soft return” style lures.  i.e worms; sluggos; tubes, unless it is just for dropping lures under branches etc. I find that I get the “curls” after twenty or thirty “soft return” type casts. The “curls” are alleviated if you like and enjoy using braided lines. They don’t seem to have the memory that mono does. Baitcaster. Every other situation that I can think of. I can drop a lure within inches of where I need it better with the baitcaster than with the spinning gear. (that’s just me..maybe others can do the same with spinning reels.) Heavier lures.. with-the-wind situations; when I need to “move” the bait by short nudges etc. I enjoy the feel of a baitcaster’s controls and drag systems far better than spinning gear, yet I use spinning gear when it does the better job. Just my personal prejudices.– regards, p.s About fifty years ago, I converted a heavyweight flyrod into a spinning rod so that I could use an original Mitchell. It cast a mile into the wind!

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thanks everybody for the help. I am having a hrd time getting the accuracy right with the baitcaster but i am working on it. thanks for the input dave

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thanks everybody for the help. I am having a hrd time getting the accuracy right with the baitcaster but i am working on it. thanks for the input dave

Hey Dave, It’s just like anything else.  If you want to do it well, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.  The good thing about this theory is that you have to go fishing to do it.  :) –

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It’s just like anything else.  If you want to do it well, PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.  The good thing about this theory is that you have to go fishing to do it.  :)

This is so true.   I got a friend of mine back into bass fishing this summer.  After a few trips he was getting frustrated because I was catching and he wasn’t.  The reason was his casting.  Frequency: I would make 3 casts to his one.  Accuracy:  I would hit on or near where I was aiming like 3 out of 5 casts where he would be lucky if he made 3 or 5 accurate casts the whole trip.  Of course this all changed as he continued fishing.  The last trip we took in early November he caught all the nice (over 2lb) fish and all I caught were dinks.  So next year I will have to concentrate better to out-fish him. (or just shut him out with boat position!) Richard Delaware Bass Stalkers

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Richard; Glad you said that about boat positioning, I will keep that in mind when we  bass fish together in the Spring. You will need your surf rod. You should never out fish the captain, especially when he’s driving…lol SEMPER PARATUS Catch and Release

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Well, like I said- IF you have long enough fingers- you can feather the line as it moves along the rod blank coming from the reel- NOT at the reel rim itself.  Skilled and blessed Doctors and excellent guitarists (and a few anglers) have long enough fingers to accomplish this manuver, but I do not. In fact, with my stubby little paws, it’s a wonder I can manage to play guitar at all!;-)         Bob– Robert E. Longshore

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When I was using a spinning reel exclusively, I always had the bail wire on the bottom of the reel when I was ready to cast.  I flipped the bail wire up, and cast (using the right hand).  Then I would take my left hand and move it to the bottom left of the reel and brought my first finger, left hand, up from the bottom of the spool to feather the line when I needed to do so.  In effect, I was holding the rod in my right hand and the reel in my left.  I never had a problem doing so once I learned how.  But I now use casting gear entirely, and the thumb on the spool is a lot easier. Warren Funk

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip altho I have heard of a few people that can feather in a spinning rig. MY index finger isn’t long enough to do that! I can usually feather my casts on spinning gear (not quite as well as I can with a baitcaster). I use my fore-finger against the edge of the spool flange. However, sometimes the bail (hinge) gets in the way of my finger… so off goes my lure right into a rock, or a tree, or whatever. That’s a big PITA, is there a better way to feather? Otherwise how do you prevent the 1 out of 10 casts in which the bail hinge gets in the way of the feathering finger? Thanks, Jamie

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re accuracy with the baitcaster. The few people that I have taught all seemed to aim the lure at the water. I told them to aim the lure at the top of the trees!  They all improved. Some cast high, lobbing throws for a while, but it is a lot easier to lower your trajectory than to raise it! RichG — regards, .

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When to choose spinning over baitcasting…. Well, I wasn’t planning to give away one of my secrets, but since Dave asked…. When I’m throwing my lures into hardwood tree limbs, I prefer baitcasters. They’re pretty effective around cedar trees, too, although less so with pines. For willows, thorn bushes, and buck brush, I find that the spinning rig provides more consistent hang-ups. From what I’ve witnessed, though, neither of them come close to spin-cast rigs when it comes to snagging boat covers, dropping your lure into cracks between dock planking, and wrapping around power lines. TNBass

re accuracy with the baitcaster. The few people that I have taught all seemed to aim the lure at the water. I told them to aim the lure at the top of the trees!  They all improved. Some cast high, lobbing throws for a while, but it is a lot easier to lower your trajectory than to raise it! RichG — regards, .

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ROTFL!!!!         How True!         Bob– Robert E. Longshore

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Dave, Use your baitcaster for everything you can! I fish with 15 combos and only 2 are spinning outfits. You have absolutly no control of the lure after you release it with a spinning reel. Use the spinning for floating worms or small crankbaits in wind but you better get used to getting a backlash every once in a while so you don’t sacrafice accuray and performance Alan

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Try this.  Don’t throw the lure with a baitcaster.  Let the equipment work for you.  When I use a spinning reel (still have a few French made Mitchell 300s left), I wing it with as much power as I can, usually when chasing stripers and bass hitting shad. When I am using a baitcaster, I let the lure pull the line off.  RichG’s comment about aiming for the trees, oddly enough, despite TNBass’s humorous response, is on target.  You want to form an arc.  As you see your lure descend from the arc, use your thumb to feather the reel. It took me awhile to learn the technique I am trying to describe, but I rarely have a bird’s nest, and when I do, they are easy to pick out.  And, like Steve said, practice, practice, practice… —    Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

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Anyone own a bass fishing tackle lures champion BnB or Bay Champ?

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I’m seriously looking at  a Bass n Bay or Bay Champ.bass fishing  tackle lures  But all I’ve seen are pictures.  Neither of the dealers in my state (Georgia) have one for trial or even viewing.  I’d like some candid advice about performance, options, motor  (make  and size recommendation), and performance as a bass fishing platform (especially the Bay Champ).  Specifically, how does it handle the wind while trolling?  Pictures indicate a lot of the bow above the water on both boats.  My Father-in-Law has a Dargel center console that he uses but any wind and you feel as though your in an aluminum john boat.   I  would like the ability to take the boat to the gulf for some bay fishing but not at the expense of bass fishing  tackle lures enjoyable bass fishing which I do  at least eighty percent of the time. Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Kevin Zemetis

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I’m seriously looking at  a Bass n Bay or Bay Champ.  But all I’ve seen are pictures.  Neither of the dealers in my state (Georgia) have one for trial or even viewing.  I’d like some candid advice about performance, options, motor  (make  and size recommendation), and performance as a bass fishing platform (especially the Bay Champ).  Specifically, how does it handle the wind while trolling?  Pictures indicate a lot of the bow above the water on both boats.  My Father-in-Law has a Dargel center console that he uses but any wind and you feel as though your in an aluminum john boat.   I  would like the ability to take the boat to the gulf for some bay fishing but not at the expense of enjoyable bass fishing which I do  at least eighty percent of the time. Any advice would be welcome.

If memory serves me, the Bass n Bay is bass fishing  tackle lures a new model introduced by Champion this year.  So there are probably very few people who own one.  I saw this boat in BASS’s recent products issue and pointed it out to my wife.  Her reply was “There’s no way we can get a $23,000 boat.  That’s way too much”.  My response was bass fishing  tackle lures”But Honey, it’s the cheapest one shown in this magazine.”  Then I pointed to Triton’s bass/saltwater boat pictured for $41,000.

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Did she go for it? If so, give us more details! I am sure there are others in this newsgroup who would love to know how to sell that! –

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I traded in my Sprint Bassin machine for a Bass-N-Bay with the 150 Merc..bass fishing  tackle lures..The smartest thing that I have done in a long time, the boat SWEET!  She runs at about 63 top end with the 150 and will stay down until I drop the tach below 2 grand. Ya dont have to run wide open in this baby to stay on plane, its great. I go to Lake Okeechobee on Saturday and to the Atlantic Ocean on Sunday..Aint life Grand. Good Luck on you purchase.

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ranger bass fishing boat, i have a malibu 2 and i love it i use it to fish salt and fresh water..its so stable i sit side ways after i anchor off and let my feet soak in the water. the other nice thing about it is there is room for a fishing buddy and that comes in real handy if you take turns fishing while the other paddles (navigates)to the weed line.ranger bass fishing boat the only draw back is you dont set any speed records though its not too bad and it is so light that if the wind kicks up it can be a beast to drive, but thats a lot of wind. i use a sea anchor which is really just a parichute in the water to help the boat coast a little slow making it easier to fish any way i think you figured out i enjoy mine a lot. good luck on your choice what ever it is.

thanks for your comments and info. Soon I’m going to rent a Malibu 2 from REI and see how well it works.   It will be especially nice if I can easily take my wife fishing with me.

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I’m not sure where your located,ranger bass fishing boat but if your in the chicago area, let me know and I can meet you at a lake and you can test drive the torrent which I tend to prefer, it’s lighter and fits inside my mini-van so I just leave it inside the car all summer (enclosed parking garage at work so it’s not 130 degrees in the car), so I can use it whenever I want… P.S. If you do buy a SOAR and are in the Chicago area, i’d love to try it

Thanks John for the great reply. ranger bass fishing boat  I live in Texas and don’t get to Chicago that often. If I did, I’d certainly come take a look at your boats.  I really appreciate all the information and especially  your generosity.

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I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. Any comments, ideas,ranger bass fishing boat experiences? Thanks in advance. Right lines

i have a malibu 2 and i love it i use it to fish salt and fresh water.ranger bass fishing boat.its so stable i sit side ways after i anchor off and let my feet soak in the water. the other nice thing about it is there is room for a fishing buddy and that comes in real handy if you take turns fishing while the other paddles (navigates)to the weed line. the only draw back is you dont set any speed records though its not too bad and it is so light that if the wind kicks up it can be a beast to drive, but thats a lot of wind. i use a sea anchor which is really just a parichute in the water to help the boat coast a little slow making it easier to fish any way i think you figured out i enjoy mine a lot. good luck on your choice what ever it is.

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I have been looking at kayaks myself. Have a look at the Pamlico Sport (single seat) or Pamlico Excel Sport (double) from Wilderness Systems. This kayak has a MotorGuide electric trolling motor mounted on the back (boo-hiss), but it looks pretty good. Its fairly wide and looks to be quite stable. If you get the Excel and go solo, you’d need to add some ballast up front, though. You can check out their website at

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: I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some : of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific : questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. : Any comments, ideas, experiences? Thanks in advance. : Right lines, : Rob Well, a couple suggestions… Sometimes I use my Torrent, it’s a $475 boat that I bought mail order (free shipping). Its a sit on top kayak, so there is no rolling, and if you fall in, you just climb back on. It has a hatch that is located right between your legs. DON”T TIP OVER WITH THE HATCH OPEN, IT’LL SINK!  The hatch is small and you’ll have to pack what your going to use in baggies. There is a place for a waterbottle to be strapped down so it won’t get lost should you tip. Lastly, it has thigh straps with hooks that you could attach a bungee cord to, to hold a small box balanced on the front deck (Note: I have never tried this, but in looking at the boat, it’s possible). Lastly, this boat is self bailing, which means it has holes in the bottom and water flows in and out depending on the weight in the boat. The sides will float 250 pounds. This means if it tips, you don’t need to bail out the cockpit area. I also have a Keowee II which is very similar to the palimino systems two seater (except that there is no motor mount and I can move my seat to the middle so that no ballist is needed in the front).   Neither kayak feels real stable when you get pulled hard from a side, however the Torrent is a whitewater kayak and as such, can recover from a hard lean more often, whereas the Keowee and most flatbottomed vessels are gonna go all the way over once they get about a 30-40 degree lean. It’s the difference between initial stablity and secondary stablity. The Keowee and Palimno’s have high initial stability which makes them a nice family boat. The torrent has a lower initial stability which makes it seem tipy at first, but it has high secondary stabilty, so it can recover from near vertical leans. If you $800 isn’t alot to you, you might want to look at catarafts. I believe SOAR has one for around that price. It’s a bit more stable, and inflatable. Check http://www.soar1.com for pictures and stuff… I’m not sure where your located, but if your in the chicago area, let me know and I can meet you at a lake and you can test drive the torrent which I tend to prefer, it’s lighter and fits inside my mini-van so I just leave it inside the car all summer (enclosed parking garage at work so it’s not 130 degrees in the car), so I can use it whenever I want… P.S. If you do buy a SOAR and are in the Chicago area, i’d love to try it ;-) — John Nelson       Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page:  http://www.ripco.com/~jwn/  (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

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If you survive your first outing without a dunking,ranger bass fishing boat  I’d like to hear about it.  Why don’t you pick a pirogue or punt boat instead of a kayak? Whatever, good luck–and let us know what you’ve decided to get.  Keep us posted if it works for you! Jim Pankey USN (Ret.) “Barbless Bassin’” Bass Fishing Field Editor MSN Outdoors Communities RStorm453 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. Any comments, ideas, experiences? Thanks in advance. Right lines, Rob

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Nail a feisty Northern unexpectedly, and you’re in for a ride. Good luck and safe boating JohnM – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you survive your first outing without a dunking, I’d like to hear about it.  Why don’t you pick a pirogue or punt boat instead of a kayak? Whatever, good luck–and let us know what you’ve decided to get.  Keep us posted if it works for you! Jim Pankey USN (Ret.) “Barbless Bassin’” Bass Fishing Field Editor MSN Outdoors Communities RStorm453 I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. Any comments, ideas, experiences? Thanks in advance. Right lines, Rob

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I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. Any comments, ideas, experiences? Thanks in advance. Right lines, Rob

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I expect you’re right about a boat ride should I hook a pike.  Unfortunately pike are in short supply in my part of Texas. (I did get a 17-pounder this past summer in Alberta–what a magnificant fish!)  I have had some interesting rides while flyfishing for bass from an innertube. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Nail a feisty Northern unexpectedly, and you’re in for a ride. Good luck and safe boating JohnM

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If you survive your first outing without a dunking, I’d like to hear about it.  Why don’t you pick a pirogue or punt boat instead of a kayak? Whatever, good luck–and let us know what you’ve decided to get.  Keep us posted if it works for you! Jim Pankey USN (Ret.) “Barbless Bassin’” Bass Fishing Field Editor MSN Outdoors Communities

I’ve fished from pirogues which to me are more suited to the shallow, protected waters of a cypress swamp than for wide-open bass lakes.  I’m not sure what a punt boat is.  If it’s what I think it is, it’s more suited to student joy rides in Cambridge (UK) than for bass fishing.  (I’ve had the good fortune to spend  more than one pleasant summer afternoon ‘punting’ on the Cam River.)  I know that “punt” guns were the now-outlawed heavy bores used by market hunters for ducks, but am not sure what the boats looked like–must have been fairly big to carry the three barrel, two-gauge shotguns and all the canvasback ducks as well as hunters and Chesapeake Bay  Retreivers. I’m interested in a kayak because I think it will give me more flexibility than either my bass boat or an innertube.  Or maybe I just want a new toy.  I will probably wait till this spring to do anything, but will certainly keep you posted.   By the way Jim, I always enjoy your posts.–rob

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Maybe you ought to try out a one man canoe. They do exist. A guy near me builds an excellent 6 footer that weighs only about 10 lbs.

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And here I have been playing the slow game of  finnesee fishing for bass from a boat! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have had some interesting rides while flyfishing for bass from an innertube.

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I’m getting interested in bass fishing from a kayak and want to hear from some of you experienced kayak users.  I don’t know enough to have many specific questions but the boat I’m looking at right now is an Ocean Kayak, Malibu 2. Any comments, ideas, experiences? Thanks in advance. Right lines, Rob

Hi, Rob… I have been looking at kayaks myself. Have a look at the Pamlico Sport (single seat) or Pamlico Excel Sport (double) from Wilderness Systems. This kayak has a MotorGuide electric trolling motor mounted on the back (boo-hiss), but it looks pretty good. Its fairly wide and looks to be quite stable. If you get the Excel and go solo, you’d need to add some ballast up front, though. You can check out their website at: http://www.wildsys.com/main.html (to reply, remove the “NO-SPAM” from address)

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Another tournament angler for life..florida bass fishing boat rental.Great story!!! My son and I fished a bass tournament on the Penobscot River, ME.  This was his first bass fishing tourneament.

florida bass fishing boat rentalWe won the Penobscot River Smallmouth Bass Tournement.  The winning weight was sixteen pounds.  The biggest fish in the tournament was a 3.98 pound lunker that I caught just fifteen minutes before time ran out. Charlie http://www.mint.net/milford.motel/pgshome.html

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Charlie, We won the Penobscot River Smallmouth Bass Tournement.  The winning weight was sixteen pounds.florida bass fishing boat rental  The biggest fish in the tournament was a 3.98 pound lunker that I caught just fifteen minutes before time ran out.

Nice story.  So, maybe I’ll catch one this week – could happen

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My son and I fished a bass tournament on the Penobscot River, ME.  This was his first bass fishing tourneament.  The boundries were from Old Town to Olomen Island in Greenbush.florida bass fishing boat rental  In the morning we fished a spot near old Town by some old logging cribs in 8 feet of water.  I had caught some very big smallmouths there the previous week.  We left the area around noon time after boating a limit of six fish.  We only had two fish over eighteen inches.  I knew that we had to cull the four smaller fish for use to place in the money. Up the river we went, five miles to Greenbush.  I felt confident the area would produce big smallmouth in the afternoon.  Right away we boated two fish over eighteen inches. florida bass fishing boat rental Then the dreaded Murphy’s law hit. I had a huge smallmouth comm off at the boat.  The my son had a big fish jump off.  By two o’clock, we had four decent smallmouths over eighteen inches, one 16 1/2″ and another 15 1/2″ in the livewell. With one hour left, we decided to go back down river to the first spot we had fished in the morning.  We still hadn’t caught the big one that I knew was there.  i made a cast to the deep side of a crib.  I felt a telltale tap on my jig, took up the slack line but couldn’t feel the jig.  Then I realized the fish is swimming at the boat.  By the time I caught up with the fish, it had moved twenty feet from the crib.  I gave her a bone jarring hookset.  The bronzeback leaped more then three feet out of the water.  My son and I in unison gasped, “WOW” as my line tightened and the drag on my Ambassadeur released thirty feet of line almost immediately.  The big bass knew how to use the river current.  My son already had the net in his hands when I said “get the net!”  Hoping there was no line damage, I held my breath as the beast strained the twelve pound test line. We were both laughing nervously as the big river smallmouth slipped into the net.  I never measured the fish as it went into the livewell. I looked like Moby Bass.  A quick glance at my watch showed only fifteen minutes left before the weigh in.  Off we went back to the ramp. I didn’t know how well we would do with that sixteen inch fish in the livewell. However, our time had arrived to weigh in our catch. We won the Penobscot River Smallmouth Bass Tournement.  The winning weight was sixteen pounds.  The biggest fish in the tournament was a 3.98 pound lunker that I caught just fifteen minutes before time ran out. Charlie http://www.mint.net/milford.motel/pgshome.html

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Mr Lee,  not at all,pelican bass raider  fishing boat  I routinely catch 5 and 6 lb largemouths in Ontario,Canada where I fish.  Largest Largemouth was a little over 8 lbs, largest Smallmouth was over 7 lbs.pelican bass raider  fishing boat  Nice fish for the North Country?  I’ve seen larger caught in the Rideau chain and Charles,  you will be fishing that system shortly. They are there,  good luck. — Everyone has an Ego, Some are larger than others! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 5 lbs sounds fairly hefty for a Canadian largemouth.  I remember a show where Roland Martin was fishing with Bob Izumi.  You remember that one?pelican bass raider  fishing boat I think Bob said that a 3 lb north country fish might be 6 or 7 years old. Maybe your fish was seriously geriatric.

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I caught my biggest largemouth last year (just over 5 – don’t laugh)pelican bass raider  fishing boat and it was kinda like reeling in a big ole mess of weeds only when the weeds got to the boat, I could practically stick my head in its mouth. 5 lbs sounds fairly hefty for a Canadian largemouth.

It’s definitely OK, but not a monster. pelican bass raider  fishing boat You won’t see a tourney go by without at least a few 5s…  On Simcoe, a guy had 3 fish for over 18 lbs last year (all smallies though). I remember a show where Roland Martin was fishing with Bob Izumi.  You remember that one?

Yeah, they’ve done several.pelican bass raider  fishing boat I think Bob said that a 3 lb north country fish might be 6 or 7 years old.

Older than that I would imagine.  I saw a report where an 11-12″ smallie was something like 5+ years old (Erie) and that was why the cormorant problem is so devastating to the smallmouth fishery. Maybe your fish was seriously geriatric.

Haha.  Yeah, maybe, but the thing is,pelican bass raider  fishing boat I’ve seen much bigger fish caught from there (Rice Lake) so I know that it wasn’t near it’s death bed or anything.

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Mr Lee,  not at all, pelican bass raider  fishing boat I routinely catch 5 and 6 lb largemouths in Ontario,Canada where I fish.

I’ve seen photographic evidence of Terry’s catches. Largest Largemouth was a little over 8 lbs, largest Smallmouth was over 7 lbs.  Nice fish for the North Country?

Still any fish that you can get over 4 lbs is a damn fine fish. An 8 lber is a trophy, no question about it. I’ve seen larger caught in the Rideau chain and Charles,  you will be fishing that system shortly. They are there,  good luck.

Good luck to you too.  You are very lucky to have access to what I think is the best and most beautiful bass fishery in the world for it’s pristine beauty and plentiful bass.  Anyone that gets a chance should fish the Rideau, and give Terry B a shout as he is a ‘big fish’ expert for the Rideau.  I can put you on all the 12″ers you want.  Just throw a spinnerbait/rattlebait/tube jig/worm/craw/lizard etc.etc.etc. anywhere you see weeds/wood/ rock or transitions. Charles

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Close!  But, this is not horse shoes or hand grenades, right? — Good fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales!

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The larger ones also put up less of a fight! I haven’t necessarily found this to be true in smallies (but I have heard that once they reach the 6-7 lb mark, they stop being the incredible aerial acrobats that they are at 3-4 lbs). With largemouth I would tend to agree.  I caught my biggest largemouth last year (just over 5 – don’t laugh) and it was kinda like reeling in a big ole mess of weeds only when the weeds got to the boat, I could practically stick my head in its mouth. Guess, just like fat old men, they move slower! (Wouldn’t know for sure personally, as I am under 60 years and less than 170 pounds!) 59 and 4′9″?  just kidding C.

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The larger ones also put up less of a fight! I haven’t necessarily found this to be true in smallies (but I have heard that once they reach the 6-7 lb mark, they stop being the incredible aerial acrobats that they are at 3-4 lbs). With largemouth I would tend to agree.  I caught my biggest largemouth last year (just over 5 – don’t laugh) and it was kinda like reeling in a big ole mess of weeds only when the weeds got to the boat, I could practically stick my head in its mouth.

You should catch a largemouth through the ice.  I caught 6 lunkers (well, NY lunkers) throught the ice one day (and had to cut the line on one that wouldn’t fit through the hole), and each one gave less of a fight than the 9″ perch I was also catching.  The first one had me thinking, “yes, this feels like a fish, but it must be really small and slow.  The big figure in the hole was quite a surprise when I pulled it up, though.  It was a 4 lb bass, giving a 4 ounce fight. —  << << << << << << << <<  << << << << << << << <<

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I’ve noticed that the fight often has something to do with HOW they’re hooked.  Hooking through the lips

I find that fish hooked through the “cheeks” don’t really put up a fight. They just kind of lay on their side and let you drag them in. — Mark CT Bass Fishing –http://skippermark.com/ To reply to me directly remove the NOSPAM from my e-mail address

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I’ve noticed that the fight often has something to do with HOW they’re hooked.  Hooking through the lips seems to produce the best fight.  I caught an 8lb fish last year that didn’t fight near as much as I thought she would, but she was hooked in the bottom of the mouth. Brady – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The larger ones also put up less of a fight!  Guess, just like fat old men, they move slower!  (Wouldn’t know for sure personally, as I am under 60 years and less than 170 pounds!) — Good fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales! I’ve noticed when release small bass they leave in a hurry but the larger one lazily swim off. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? I don’t know Brady.  When I hold a finish vertical by the lower jaw (not wrenching it out – just letting the fish hang), it always seems to have what I thought was a disorienting and somehow immobilizing affect on them and they don’t squirm. Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference? Don’t know again.  Sometimes the TV guys probably hold the fish out of the water longer than you know, trying to get good camera shots or whatever, and some of that gets edited out.  By that time the bass is slowly suffocating and is probably half unconscious.  When I release them, they sit there for a second (reorienting themselves?) and then usually splash me with water with their tails on their way out.  On occasion, the larger ones especially will just kind of  meander off, like they own the place (which they kind of do.) Regards, Jeff

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The larger ones also put up less of a fight!

I haven’t necessarily found this to be true in smallies (but I have heard that once they reach the 6-7 lb mark, they stop being the incredible aerial acrobats that they are at 3-4 lbs). With largemouth I would tend to agree.  I caught my biggest largemouth last year (just over 5 – don’t laugh) and it was kinda like reeling in a big ole mess of weeds only when the weeds got to the boat, I could practically stick my head in its mouth. Guess, just like fat old men, they move slower! (Wouldn’t know for sure personally, as I am under 60 years and less than 170 pounds!)

59 and 4′9″?  just kidding C.

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I caught my biggest largemouth last year (just over 5 – don’t laugh) and it was kinda like reeling in a big ole mess of weeds only when the weeds got to the boat, I could practically stick my head in its mouth.

5 lbs sounds fairly hefty for a Canadian largemouth.  I remember a show where Roland Martin was fishing with Bob Izumi.  You remember that one? I think Bob said that a 3 lb north country fish might be 6 or 7 years old. Maybe your fish was seriously geriatric. – Mu

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Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I

I think they play them until they can’t move anymore.  I prefer to catch my fish, wheel them in quickly & let them go.  I don’t see the need to play with them unless they’re really putting up a big fight & you can’t bring them in easily. — Mark CT Bass Fishing –http://skippermark.com/ To reply to me directly remove the NOSPAM from my e-mail address

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And why do they always have these bass fishing shows on Saturday mornings?

They’re also on Sunday evenings, 6PM I think on the east coast.  I usually record them if I can’t watch them on Saturday, plus that way you can get rid of all the commercials & condense 4 hours of fishing into 1. — Mark CT Bass Fishing –http://skippermark.com/ To reply to me directly remove the NOSPAM from my e-mail address

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I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong?

I don’t know Brady.  When I hold a finish vertical by the lower jaw (not wrenching it out – just letting the fish hang), it always seems to have what I thought was a disorienting and somehow immobilizing affect on them and they don’t squirm. Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference?

Don’t know again.  Sometimes the TV guys probably hold the fish out of the water longer than you know, trying to get good camera shots or whatever, and some of that gets edited out.  By that time the bass is slowly suffocating and is probably half unconscious.  When I release them, they sit there for a second (reorienting themselves?) and then usually splash me with water with their tails on their way out.  On occasion, the larger ones especially will just kind of  meander off, like they own the place (which they kind of do.) Regards, Jeff

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I’ve noticed when release small bass they leave in a hurry but the larger one lazily swim off. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? I don’t know Brady.  When I hold a finish vertical by the lower jaw (not wrenching it out – just letting the fish hang), it always seems to have what I thought was a disorienting and somehow immobilizing affect on them and they don’t squirm. Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference? Don’t know again.  Sometimes the TV guys probably hold the fish out of the water longer than you know, trying to get good camera shots or whatever, and some of that gets edited out.  By that time the bass is slowly suffocating and is probably half unconscious.  When I release them, they sit there for a second (reorienting themselves?) and then usually splash me with water with their tails on their way out.  On occasion, the larger ones especially will just kind of  meander off, like they own the place (which they kind of do.) Regards, Jeff

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The larger ones also put up less of a fight!  Guess, just like fat old men, they move slower!  (Wouldn’t know for sure personally, as I am under 60 years and less than 170 pounds!) — Good fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve noticed when release small bass they leave in a hurry but the larger one lazily swim off. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? I don’t know Brady.  When I hold a finish vertical by the lower jaw (not wrenching it out – just letting the fish hang), it always seems to have what I thought was a disorienting and somehow immobilizing affect on them and they don’t squirm. Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference? Don’t know again.  Sometimes the TV guys probably hold the fish out of the water longer than you know, trying to get good camera shots or whatever, and some of that gets edited out.  By that time the bass is slowly suffocating and is probably half unconscious.  When I release them, they sit there for a second (reorienting themselves?) and then usually splash me with water with their tails on their way out.  On occasion, the larger ones especially will just kind of  meander off, like they own the place (which they kind of do.) Regards, Jeff

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Gee…I suppose next;  you will be telling us that pro wrestling is a fake too. Seriously, I do not disagree that much of the “show” is put together in the editing room.  It is probably a lot like our memories, we recall easily the bite, fight, and landing of any nice fish but soon forget the rain, cold, wind, and hours without so much as a nibble. Every once in a while some down home honesty shines through…like this past weekend when Bill Dance “joked” that the reason he does not use live bait….He does not have any live bait sponsors. Good Fish’n ….snipped…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Ever see the ones where they cut from a view of the fisherman fighting the fish and then suddenly the camera is underwater and you see what the fish is actually doing?  You think they have an underwater cameraman?  The camera is probably close to the boat and the fish, once it’s sufficiently subdued, can be led near the lens.  Then in post production you can splice in pieces of the video clips to make it look like you are watching the fish as the angler is masterfully playing it out. – Mu

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Mu, I agree with you except on one point: If they showed the entire fight, it would not be boring to most in this news group!  It might cut down on how many informercials they could show! And why do they always have these bass fishing shows on Saturday mornings? Damn, I am on the water any day I don’t have to work and can slip out before the wife has her first cup of coffee! — Good fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Don’t let ‘em fool ya, Brady.  Those were fish that were caught from an aquarium made to look like a lake through the use of camera tricks.  The fish are trained not to be scared of humans.  (not entirely joking here as some ponds might as well be aquariums). Seriously though, most of the bass I catch remain fairly feisty too and swim off rather quickly.  Sometimes in their panic, or anger(?) ;) they run right into my legs.  If you fight a fish for a long time it will tend to swim off slowly.  The TV shows are meant to be entertaining and they don’t always show the entire fight – if everything were shown in real-time then it’d be quite boring.  Maybe the directors feel that a slowly departing fish is more interesting for the viewer and thus will choose more of those type of video clips for actual airing on TV.  Ever see the ones where they cut from a view of the fisherman fighting the fish and then suddenly the camera is underwater and you see what the fish is actually doing?  You think they have an underwater cameraman?  The camera is probably close to the boat and the fish, once it’s sufficiently subdued, can be led near the lens.  Then in post production you can splice in pieces of the video clips to make it look like you are watching the fish as the angler is masterfully playing it out. – Mu I have a question regarding fish handling techniques. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference?

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Because, apparently, you are handling the beauties the proper way.  When I fish local club tournaments, the bass have no problem swimming off quickly as long as I am willing to walk out into at least a foot of water and gently slip him or her into the water, with its nose pointing toward the deep water. (P.S., check out Warren’s CPR post, if you haven’t already read it!) — Good fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales!

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question regarding fish handling techniques. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference? Thanks, Brady

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I have a question regarding fish handling techniques. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference? Thanks, Brady

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Don’t let ‘em fool ya, Brady.  Those were fish that were caught from an aquarium made to look like a lake through the use of camera tricks.  The fish are trained not to be scared of humans.  (not entirely joking here as some ponds might as well be aquariums). Seriously though, most of the bass I catch remain fairly feisty too and swim off rather quickly.  Sometimes in their panic, or anger(?) ;) they run right into my legs.  If you fight a fish for a long time it will tend to swim off slowly.  The TV shows are meant to be entertaining and they don’t always show the entire fight – if everything were shown in real-time then it’d be quite boring.  Maybe the directors feel that a slowly departing fish is more interesting for the viewer and thus will choose more of those type of video clips for actual airing on TV.  Ever see the ones where they cut from a view of the fisherman fighting the fish and then suddenly the camera is underwater and you see what the fish is actually doing?  You think they have an underwater cameraman?  The camera is probably close to the boat and the fish, once it’s sufficiently subdued, can be led near the lens.  Then in post production you can splice in pieces of the video clips to make it look like you are watching the fish as the angler is masterfully playing it out.   – Mu – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have a question regarding fish handling techniques. I see the pros on TV always grab the bass by the bottom jaw, at which point the bass freezes and stays perfectly still.  When I try that, they start jumping like they’ve been hit by a cattle prod.  What am I doing wrong? Another thing that bothers me – when the pros on TV release their catch, the fish generally lies in place for a second, then slowly swims off.  When I release mine (which I always do), they tear off like they’re swimming for their life.  Why the difference?

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I have to fish or I die…bass fishing boat fish bealers  Water temp. is about 40 degrees plus or minus 2 degrees.. Belleville Lake is part of the Huron River, and the dams are running wide open… current is really flowing… the flats are iced over, so the only open water is the main river channel.bass fishing boat fish bealers…  my only access is shore line…..  but I have access to the main channel around bridges….bass fishing boat fish bealers.   I have tried a pig & jig, casting along the ice line that seperates the deep water from the shallow…  nothing….  I have tried a Carolina rig with a lizard and with a worm… nothing…  I have tried a Rapala minnow on a live bait rig…. nothing…  HELP!!!   I have to fish..bass fishing boat fish bealers.. But I want to catch something at least once in a while….

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Unfortunately I also have to live through the winter in Michigan.bass fishing boat fish bealers My advice would be to try ice fishing or buy a bass fishing computer game! You can only keep bass 14″ and over and prior to 12/31. After the new year bass season is closed until the saturday before memorial day on inland waters. Not to say you cant catch bass in the winter, I have had 10-15 fish days through the ice while perch fishing on lake st clair. If you must cast for them…bass fishing boat fish bealers downsize and slowdown! use the smallest jig and pig combo you can find/throw. If you can get in a boat in the open waters, try a jigging spoon. Good luck, and keep me posted!

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hi is any body on tour for bass fishing ?hawk bass fishing boat fish bass??

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hi I live in New york and I’m 13  my friend and I fish a lot and most days we catch between 3-6 bass in 2 -3 hours and wondering how you get on tour for fishing and if any body knows about tournments coming up in the upstate NY area ??hawk  bass fishing boat fish bass? Thanks if you can help.

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hi I live in New york and I’m 13  my friend and I fish a lot and most days we catch between 3-6 bass in 2 -3 hours and wondering how you get on tour for fishing and if any body knows about tournments coming up in the upstate NY area ??hawk  bass fishing boat fish bass?

There are lots of “tours” out there. I’m not real sure what tour you are wanting to follow.hawk  bass fishing boat fish bass ALL would require you to have written permission and I’m not sure you still would not have to be 16 at the minimum. You could fish locally in the B.A.S.S. Federation end of things and work your way up. You might look at fishing Redman through Operation Bass. MBA ( military bass association ) all three have places for folks without boats to be hooked up with a person who wants to use their own boat. I would think if you have a local B.A.S.S. club that it would be a good start that did not take much money so you could see if you like tournament bass fishing. Lots of people like to fish or bass fish BUT tournament fishing is not everyones cup of tea! Take a little time and don’t go head long into it, you can get information at any of the boathawk  bass fishing boat fish bass/vacation shows this winter and go from there. The tournament season in your state is pretty well winding down for ‘98. Get a magazine or two and write some letters for information, we are probably going to have to pay for a mild winter last year so you have at least 6 months before the water unfreezes and you can start a ‘99 season

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I am so happy to here about young people fishing. You are the future and the backbone of our sport.hawk  bass fishing boat fish bass Ask at local bait and tackle stores about local clubs.  They may allow young members with parental permission. But please keep fishing no matter what. You will get your opportunities for competition. If nothing else you should register for the Big Bass World Championship. That is open to anyone.    hi I live in New york and I’m 13  my friend and I fish a lot and most days we catch between 3-6 bass in 2 -3 hours and wondering how you get on tour for fishing and if any body knows about tournments coming up in the upstate NY area ??hawk  bass fishing boat fish bass? Thanks if you can help.

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