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Bob, I don’t know, I use a lot of garlic sented pork trailers..ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass… have you ever smelled those Chopper baits? –

thought to invite a few Black Bass to the feast,ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass but I guess they wouldn’t enjoy the garlic that much.

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I’m sure your information is correct, because I’ve read it somewhere in some magazine before. ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass  I think the article also mentioned the fact that while southern bass grow faster and larger, their longevity suffers….plus, I think the presence of ‘gators.ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass.. At any rate, I’d like to find a stone-age LMB.  She’d be humungous, I’ll bet!  As it is, 100% of the boats manufactured today for freshwater bass fishing have live wells too small to hold my “dream” bass!  I wouldn’t want to kill it, just weigh it on certified scales, have it verified by a bonafide fisheries biologist representing the state’s FGD or TWR agencies, photographed, and released. ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bassI don’t know Richard, I’m no Grits Gresham you know… Warren (flattered once again by Bass Rogue) Warren, Actually Richard, the oldest (confirmed through its “earstone”, technically known as its “otolith”) verified beautiful green fish (Micropterus salmoides) ever verified was a 14 year old specimen taken from northern waters (NY State).  It weighed a shade under 7 pounds.  In optimal conditions, a bass can reach 10 pounds in its first 4 years of life.  Hey, I had to go to college for something I was interested in, right? This reads like the beginning of a FAQ article.  I don’t think we have anything in the outline for this.  How about you write an article with all the scientific terms and stuff like that, and I’ll redo the table of contents and make a place for it Richard

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Warren, Only ONE jetski Richard? ulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass And I thought you were a professional…

Hey, it’s not that easy.  I have to get the non-descript Bassin’ Dreadnought over the buoy line to get at them, and I have to do it when the game warden isn’t looking :

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Warren, I don’t know Richard, I’m no Grits Gresham you know…

Okay, I’ll run the grammar checker on it when you’re doneulttmate bass fishing boat fish bass Right now the Table of Contents looks something like: Table of Contents 1)  Bass       A)  Catch and Release – tbs       B)  Types of Bass             a)  Largemouth – tbs             b)  Smallmouth – tbs             c)  Spotted – tbs             d)  Other – tbs       C)  Bass and Structure – tbs       D)  Bass and Forage – tbs       E)  Seasonal Patterns             a)  Winter – tbs             b)  Spring – tbs             c)  Summer – tbs Now, I’m thinking maybe we change it to something simpler like: 1)  Bass       B)  Catch and Release – tbs I don’t know, what do you think?  There is nothing sacred with the Table of Contents, it was just throw together to get people thinking. Richard

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I agree.  Black Bass are to be returned.  Stripers are to be eaten.  But, I prefer to soak them in salt water for at least an hour, rinse them well, smother them in butter and garlic, wrap them in tinfold and roast them on the gas grill.  I have thought to invite a few Black Bass to the feast, but I guess they wouldn’t enjoy the garlic that much. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bob, Now that I didn’t know: stripers chomping on Black Bass.  Oddly though, the other day I caught a bass and striper (both dinks) within a hundred yards of each other.  I guess the babies will play with each other until one realizes the other could be a meal. Stripers, largemouth bass and smallmouth bass can all coexist in the same body of water and all three will survive; however, the pecking order changes when the stripers are introduced – they go to the top of the list.  The lake records for stripers out here are about 40 pounds, and a fish that size can eat a pretty good size chunk of something. Stripers and bass compete with each other over parts of the food chain.  Both fish tend to feed on shad and when a school of stripers goes to town on a school of shad, there isn’t much left over for the bass, unless the bass is a real hawg and is feeding along with the stripers. Besides thinning out the largemouth bass and smallmouth bass by chomping on them when they are small, I think the stripers also affect the size of the bass by making the bass work harder for their food.  I read somewhere that a largewmouth bass can live to about 20 years and can gain about one pound a year.  Now, if that ugly sucker has to work real hard to eat, it probably only gains about a half a ound a year and so the big hawgs disappear from a lake. So, throw the ugly suckers back and have a fish fry if you snag a striper. Richard

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Warren, Only ONE jetski Richard?  And I thought you were a professional… Hey, it’s not that easy.  I have to get the non-descript Bassin’ Dreadnought over the buoy line to get at them, and I have to do it when the game warden isn’t looking

What is the limit on jetskis, anyway? —         “Allright, I think I’ve figured it out.  It can go up         or down, but not side-to-side or backwards in time.”

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I take it the “tbs”  means nothing’s yet been written on the subject? If that’s the case, I’ll get around to doing a wintertime thing soon, I promise.  But for me to reveal what I know about spring & summer patterning would be sacriledge Richard.  Ya never know when you’re revealing to much to the folks you’re fishing against in tournaments! Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren, I don’t know Richard, I’m no Grits Gresham you know… Okay, I’ll run the grammar checker on it when you’re done Right now the Table of Contents looks something like: Table of Contents 1)  Bass       A)  Catch and Release – tbs       B)  Types of Bass             a)  Largemouth – tbs             b)  Smallmouth – tbs             c)  Spotted – tbs             d)  Other – tbs       C)  Bass and Structure – tbs       D)  Bass and Forage – tbs       E)  Seasonal Patterns             a)  Winter – tbs             b)  Spring – tbs             c)  Summer – tbs Now, I’m thinking maybe we change it to something simpler like: 1)  Bass       B)  Catch and Release – tbs I don’t know, what do you think?  There is nothing sacred with the Table of Contents, it was just throw together to get people thinking. Richard

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writes: Does anyone have any info on the boat rental situation at Lake Castaic (California)?

For the upper lake, the big lake, I think they’re something like $24 for the first two hours and then $6 per hour.  The maximum is $66 on the weekend. (805) 257-2049. For the after bay, the little lake, I think it’s something like $7 an hour for a max of $40.  No gas motors on the lower lake. (805)295-0849. Richard

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Warren, How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day.

The small lake is 180 acres and limited to electric boats.  It has a swimming area and a picnic area.  It is located just below the dam of the big lake.  The big lake is 2200 acreas and home of the big bad bass boats.  It has miles of steep canyon walls and bunches of impressive main lakes points.  It also has some narrow canyons off the main lake.  The small lake is stocked with family fishing fish.  The big lake is stocked with trout during the winter and that’s where the hawgs come from – chomping on the trout.  The big lake also has smallmouth which is good and stripers which is bad.  Ever since the stripers got into the lake, the 20 lb. hawgs have disappeared.  They might be there, but they are few and far between.  The stripers are the big bad guys now, and they don’t mind chomping on a bass or two if the trout aren’t around.  But even with the stripers around, there are throphies in that lake, they’re just a little harder to catch than they used to be. Richard

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That’s too bad about the stripers.  Since the big rivers here in the Northeast US have been cleaned up, those giant stripers have made a strong comeback here.  It’s reaLLy affected the bass fishing too, for the worse.  The black bass seem to orient themselves mostly away from the deep channels where the stripers lurk.  Can’t blame them… Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren, How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day. The small lake is 180 acres and limited to electric boats.  It has a swimming area and a picnic area.  It is located just below the dam of the big lake.  The big lake is 2200 acreas and home of the big bad bass boats.  It has miles of steep canyon walls and bunches of impressive main lakes points.  It also has some narrow canyons off the main lake.  The small lake is stocked with family fishing fish.  The big lake is stocked with trout during the winter and that’s where the hawgs come from – chomping on the trout.  The big lake also has smallmouth which is good and stripers which is bad.  Ever since the stripers got into the lake, the 20 lb. hawgs have disappeared.  They might be there, but they are few and far between.  The stripers are the big bad guys now, and they don’t mind chomping on a bass or two if the trout aren’t around.  But even with the stripers around, there are throphies in that lake, they’re just a little harder to catch than they used to be. Richard

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The stripers are there because when those SoCal people stole our North Calif water, they sucked it and most of the striper fry from the San Francisco Delta.  For those who have not been West, most of the people in this state are in LA and the Southern part of the state.  They have a voracious appetite for water, worse than those Castaic U.G.’s for trout.  They built a ditch from San Francisco to LA that is 30′ deep and 300′ wide. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s too bad about the stripers.  Since the big rivers here in the Northeast US have been cleaned up, those giant stripers have made a strong comeback here.  It’s reaLLy affected the bass fishing too, for the worse.  The black bass seem to orient themselves mostly away from the deep channels where the stripers lurk.  Can’t blame them… Warren Warren, How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day. The small lake is 180 acres and limited to electric boats.  It has a swimming area and a picnic area.  It is located just below the dam of the big lake.  The big lake is 2200 acreas and home of the big bad bass boats.  It has miles of steep canyon walls and bunches of impressive main lakes points.  It also has some narrow canyons off the main lake.  The small lake is stocked with family fishing fish.  The big lake is stocked with trout during the winter and that’s where the hawgs come from – chomping on the trout.  The big lake also has smallmouth which is good and stripers which is bad.  Ever since the stripers got into the lake, the 20 lb. hawgs have disappeared.  They might be there, but they are few and far between.  The stripers are the big bad guys now, and they don’t mind chomping on a bass or two if the trout aren’t around.  But even with the stripers around, there are throphies in that lake, they’re just a little harder to catch than they used to be. Richard

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Now that I didn’t know: stripers chomping on Black Bass.  Oddly though, the other day I caught a bass and striper (both dinks) within a hundred yards of each other. I guess the babies will play with each other until one realizes the other could be a meal. Nothing to do with this thread, but do you remember saying several weeks ago that the lower food supply was too abundant? Today (a chilly start at 46 degrees and got to 74 degrees by 1 p.m.), I saw something I had never seen before:  a 10 acre+ cove off the upper part of Lake Murray that was popping with minnows being chased by something, Black Bass I think.  Imagine a cove such as this with minnows jumping about every foot!  My oldest son was with me and he remarked it sounded like rain hitting the water, it was so constant. Everytime I threw something (tried about everything in my tackle box) near one of the ‘hits’,  about a dozen minnows would jump to get out of the way of my lure.  It was a weird experience. No wonder I am not getting trophies this year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren, How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day. The small lake is 180 acres and limited to electric boats.  It has a swimming area and a picnic area.  It is located just below the dam of the big lake.  The big lake is 2200 acreas and home of the big bad bass boats.  It has miles of steep canyon walls and bunches of impressive main lakes points.  It also has some narrow canyons off the main lake.  The small lake is stocked with family fishing fish.  The big lake is stocked with trout during the winter and that’s where the hawgs come from – chomping on the trout.  The big lake also has smallmouth which is good and stripers which is bad.  Ever since the stripers got into the lake, the 20 lb. hawgs have disappeared.  They might be there, but they are few and far between.  The stripers are the big bad guys now, and they don’t mind chomping on a bass or two if the trout aren’t around.  But even with the stripers around, there are throphies in that lake, they’re just a little harder to catch than they used to be. Richard

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Bass Rogue, Thanks for the info.  I called the number and got a message about them being a half mile from the lake?  Are the renting boats on upper lake yet?  About 2 weeks ago they weren’t.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Does anyone have any info on the boat rental situation at Lake Castaic (California)?   For the upper lake, the big lake, I think they’re something like $24 for the first two hours and then $6 per hour.  The maximum is $66 on the weekend. (805) 257-2049. For the after bay, the little lake, I think it’s something like $7 an hour for a max of $40.  No gas motors on the lower lake. (805)295-0849. Richard

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Bill, The stripers are there because when those SoCal people stole our North Calif water, they sucked it and most of the striper fry from the San Francisco Delta.  For those who have not been West, most of the people in this state are in LA and the Southern part of the state.  They have a voracious appetite for water, worse than those Castaic U.G.’s for trout.  They built a ditch from San Francisco to LA that is 30′ deep and 300′ wide.

Now wait a minute here, I think you’re looking at all of this wrong.  I thought we were doing you a big favor by draining off that excess water so you wouldn’t get floods and stuff like that.  Damn, here we are being nice to you and you start complaining –  and I’ve never heard anyone down here complain about you sending us waters polluted with stripers Now, I’ll agree there is a big ditch running from up there to down here somewhere, but most of the water doesn’t get that far.  I think 90% of the water is actually used by farms along the way, and that’s where the real racket is.  The water is taken from Northern California and paid for by Southern California, but is actually used in between by farmers at reduced rates.  On the books, they actually show the water as going to LA at some dollar cost per acre foot and then sold to the farmers at reduced rates because it is excess water. Richard

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Bob, Now that I didn’t know: stripers chomping on Black Bass.  Oddly though, the other day I caught a bass and striper (both dinks) within a hundred yards of each other.  I guess the babies will play with each other until one realizes the other could be a meal.

Stripers, largemouth bass and smallmouth bass can all coexist in the same body of water and all three will survive; however, the pecking order changes when the stripers are introduced – they go to the top of the list.  The lake records for stripers out here are about 40 pounds, and a fish that size can eat a pretty good size chunk of something. Stripers and bass compete with each other over parts of the food chain.  Both fish tend to feed on shad and when a school of stripers goes to town on a school of shad, there isn’t much left over for the bass, unless the bass is a real hawg and is feeding along with the stripers. Besides thinning out the largemouth bass and smallmouth bass by chomping on them when they are small, I think the stripers also affect the size of the bass by making the bass work harder for their food.  I read somewhere that a largewmouth bass can live to about 20 years and can gain about one pound a year.  Now, if that ugly sucker has to work real hard to eat, it probably only gains about a half a ound a year and so the big hawgs disappear from a lake.   So, throw the ugly suckers back and have a fish fry if you snag a striper. Richard

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writes: Thanks for the info.  I called the number and got a message about them being a half mile from the lake?  Are the renting boats on upper lake yet?  About 2 weeks ago they weren’t.

I thought I saw one rental boat on the lake.  I didn’t see a place on the lake to rent boats, but I tend to get preoccupied around the ramp trying not to run into anyone or anything. Richard

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Actually Richard, the oldest (confirmed through its “earstone”, technically known as its “otolith”) verified beautiful green fish (Micropterus salmoides) ever verified was a 14 year old specimen taken from northern waters (NY State).  It weighed a shade under 7 pounds.  In optimal conditions, a bass can reach 10 pounds in its first 4 years of life.  Hey, I had to go to college for something I was interested in, right? Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bob, Now that I didn’t know: stripers chomping on Black Bass.  Oddly though, the other day I caught a bass and striper (both dinks) within a hundred yards of each other.  I guess the babies will play with each other until one realizes the other could be a meal. Stripers, largemouth bass and smallmouth bass can all coexist in the same body of water and all three will survive; however, the pecking order changes when the stripers are introduced – they go to the top of the list.  The lake records for stripers out here are about 40 pounds, and a fish that size can eat a pretty good size chunk of something. Stripers and bass compete with each other over parts of the food chain.  Both fish tend to feed on shad and when a school of stripers goes to town on a school of shad, there isn’t much left over for the bass, unless the bass is a real hawg and is feeding along with the stripers. Besides thinning out the largemouth bass and smallmouth bass by chomping on them when they are small, I think the stripers also affect the size of the bass by making the bass work harder for their food.  I read somewhere that a largewmouth bass can live to about 20 years and can gain about one pound a year.  Now, if that ugly sucker has to work real hard to eat, it probably only gains about a half a ound a year and so the big hawgs disappear from a lake. So, throw the ugly suckers back and have a fish fry if you snag a striper. Richard

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but I tend to get preoccupied around the ramp trying not to run into anyone or anything.

…you’re not so careful when you’re on-plane doing 70 mph on the big water though are you, Richard?  I heard you take-out jetskiers like the Broncos take out their opponents… Warren

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Warren …you’re not so careful when you’re on-plane doing 70 mph on the big water though are you, Richard?  I heard you take-out jetskiers like the Broncos take out their opponents…

Seems to me, I’ve taken out a jetski with the Bassin’ Dreadnought before.  I believe it was one of those stories about two solid objects trying to occupy the same place at the same time.  Bass Boat -1, Jet Ski – 0 Richard

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Warren, Actually Richard, the oldest (confirmed through its “earstone”, technically known as its “otolith”) verified beautiful green fish (Micropterus salmoides) ever verified was a 14 year old specimen taken from northern waters (NY State).  It weighed a shade under 7 pounds.  In optimal conditions, a bass can reach 10 pounds in its first 4 years of life.  Hey, I had to go to college for something I was interested in, right?

This reads like the beginning of a FAQ article.  I don’t think we have anything in the outline for this.  How about you write an article with all the scientific terms and stuff like that, and I’ll redo the table of contents and make a place for it Richard

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Only ONE jetski Richard?  And I thought you were a professional… Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren …you’re not so careful when you’re on-plane doing 70 mph on the big water though are you, Richard?  I heard you take-out jetskiers like the Broncos take out their opponents… Seems to me, I’ve taken out a jetski with the Bassin’ Dreadnought before.  I believe it was one of those stories about two solid objects trying to occupy the same place at the same time.  Bass Boat -1, Jet Ski – 0 Richard

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I don’t know Richard, I’m no Grits Gresham you know… Warren (flattered once again by Bass Rogue) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren, Actually Richard, the oldest (confirmed through its “earstone”, technically known as its “otolith”) verified beautiful green fish (Micropterus salmoides) ever verified was a 14 year old specimen taken from northern waters (NY State).  It weighed a shade under 7 pounds.  In optimal conditions, a bass can reach 10 pounds in its first 4 years of life.  Hey, I had to go to college for something I was interested in, right? This reads like the beginning of a FAQ article.  I don’t think we have anything in the outline for this.  How about you write an article with all the scientific terms and stuff like that, and I’ll redo the table of contents and make a place for it Richard

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Does anyone have any info on the boat rental situation at Lake Castaic (California)?   Thanks

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How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day. Thanks, Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: Does anyone have any info on the boat rental situation at Lake Castaic (California)? For the upper lake, the big lake, I think they’re something like $24 for the first two hours and then $6 per hour.  The maximum is $66 on the weekend. (805) 257-2049. For the after bay, the little lake, I think it’s something like $7 an hour for a max of $40.  No gas motors on the lower lake. (805)295-0849. Richard

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Warren, I wouldn’t mind landing a couple of bass of any size lately!! <G Jim Pankey USN (Ret.) “Barbless Bassin’” – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How does the fishing compare in the two lakes Richard?  Are they seperate, or connected?  The Castaic mystique always intrigues me; I can’t even imagine hooking a bass in the 20 pound class, even having landed one over 12 & another over 11 on the same day. Thanks, Warren (fdp) writes: Does anyone have any info on the boat rental situation at Lake Castaic (California)? For the upper lake, the big lake, I think they’re something like $24 for the first two hours and then $6 per hour.  The maximum is $66 on the weekend. (805) 257-2049. For the after bay, the little lake, I think it’s something like $7 an hour for a max of $40.  No gas motors on the lower lake. (805)295-0849. Richard

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