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My apologies to Mike and everybody else out there who were suckered into my “rotating hook” reply to Al.coleman bass fishing boat As far as your floating Raps go they’ve a long history of catching many species twitched (or deadsticked) along the surface, and I’ve heard they do OK trolled. I can’t offer any personal experiences with the floaters since I don’t troll for fish and am too impatient to fish top water so slow.coleman bass fishing boat!  I bought the “rotating hooks on a swivel” thing just like a gut hooked fish.  Hook, line and sinker. I am just getting into this bass fishing and am so lacking in knowledge. Good joke on me and I love it! I do have a question for you folks with bass fishing expertise.  I have been using “Rapala Original” floating lures in the, I believe, 1/8 and 1/4 Oz size for salmon.coleman bass fishing boat  Are these any good for bass?  I believe they are made for that purpose but don’t know if they are any good. For salmon I remove the hooks and put a single 3 or 4 ought on the rear with a split ring.  I then tie 4 or 5 pieces of red yarn, long enough to trail over the hook, to the hook ring on the belly of the lure.  Fished from a drifting boat in light chop and light winds about 60 to 100 yards behind the boat on 10 lb.coleman bass fishing boat line and a light rod this can be deadly.  Work it like a wounded herring with blood or innards streaming out.  Great fun on 3 to 5 lb. Silvers. Thanks for any feedback on the Rapalas.

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My apologies too. Shawn’s post was so funny I had to join in the Al baiting. It looked pretty good, so you don’t have to feel bad if you got caught. That’s “lures” for you! <)))’

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My apologies to Mike and everybody else out there who were suckered into my “rotating hook” reply to Al. As far as your floating Raps go they’ve a long history of catching many species twitched (or deadsticked) along the surface, and I’ve heard they do OK trolled. I can’t offer any personal experiences with the floaters since I don’t troll for fish and am too impatient to fish top water so slow. Shawn Good grief!  I bought the “rotating hooks on a swivel” thing just like a gut hooked fish.  Hook, line and sinker. I am just getting into this bass fishing and am so lacking in knowledge. Good joke on me and I love it! I do have a question for you folks with bass fishing expertise.  I have been using “Rapala Original” floating lures in the, I believe, 1/8 and 1/4 Oz size for salmon.  Are these any good for bass?  I believe they are made for that purpose but don’t know if they are any good. For salmon I remove the hooks and put a single 3 or 4 ought on the rear with a split ring.  I then tie 4 or 5 pieces of red yarn, long enough to trail over the hook, to the hook ring on the belly of the lure.  Fished from a drifting boat in light chop and light winds about 60 to 100 yards behind the boat on 10 lb. line and a light rod this can be deadly.  Work it like a wounded herring with blood or innards streaming out.  Great fun on 3 to 5 lb. Silvers. Thanks for any feedback on the Rapalas. Best Mike N

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Good grief!  I bought the “rotating hooks on a swivel” thing just like a gut hooked fish.  Hook, line and sinker. I am just getting into this bass fishing and am so lacking in knowledge. Good joke on me and I love it! I do have a question for you folks with bass fishing expertise.  I have been using “Rapala Original” floating lures in the, I believe, 1/8 and

Oh yea, Rapalas will catch bass.  Some guys have it down to a science. Cast it out and let it sit and when you can’t stand it, twitch it once, let it sit until you can’t stand it again, twitch it.  Etc.  I have had good success in Spring lightly twitching it back to the boat, jerk bait fashion and I have trolled them before and caught bass that way. — Richard Delaware Bass Stalkers http://www.bassstalkers.com

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Absolutely no need for any apologies.  I love a good joke and no harm done at all.  Best thing about this was I was taken in so totally.   Thanks also to the responses on the Rapela lures.  Sounds like the method of fishing them for bass is very similar to what I have done for salmon. Best Mike N

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An extension of the “Rotating Hooks” gag. At work today I was talking to a fellow who has caught more, bigger, harder fighting, on lighter tackle, in worse weather, in bigger/smaller boats etc, etc. You get the idea. Told him I had read in a bass fishing NG about the trick of putting swivels on rotating hooks to create turbulence.  One clockwise, the other counter clockwise so the lure would run true. Anyone want to guess what the response was?   (VBG) Thanks guys for the great set-up line. Best Mike N

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Know exactly what your talking about… My guess would be that he had once caught fish on a lure with a battery powered prop, or some similar turbulence creating option… (perhaps using a RC boat for trolling) :-) Don’t you just hate clueless son of a b****** like that? Reminds me of story….     Good friend of mine(experienced angler) is fishing before his second shift job one afternoon, tossing a few from the ramp area of a local pond. Just a few from the bank before work.  A guy crowds up against him and begins a conversation along the lines of his unusually exceptional fishing experience/performance from this particular pond.  Actually goes to the trouble of saying, and I quote, “I know how to catch fish here, but I’m not going to tell you!”     Well, my friend, who has been listening patiently, catches a 12 incher. They guy goes nuts!  This is definitely the biggest fish he has ever seen. He grabs the fish using both hands, by the body (and with great excitement), as my partner lifts the fish from the water.  Long story short…mental problem on one end of this story.  Guy tries to buy lure from friend, friend refuses.  Had him up to $5 before he released him, telling him he could get one at WalMart (he’s too nice).     Our favorite line grabbed from that story?  ”I know how to catch fish here, and I’m not going to tell you!” — Amiasoft SiteAid – A great HTML Editor Find out more at: http://www.amiasoft.com

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – An extension of the “Rotating Hooks” gag. At work today I was talking to a fellow who has caught more, bigger, harder fighting, on lighter tackle, in worse weather, in bigger/smaller boats etc, etc. You get the idea. Told him I had read in a bass fishing NG about the trick of putting swivels on rotating hooks to create turbulence.  One clockwise, the other counter clockwise so the lure would run true. Anyone want to guess what the response was?   (VBG) Thanks guys for the great set-up line. Best Mike N

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What are they? They don’t look different than any other treble hooks. Al Incomplete angler-writer

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OK, now look again. Warren2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What are they? They don’t look different than any other treble hooks. Al Incomplete angler-writer

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Are you looking at them in a picture or in real life?  If it’s a picture, it must be a small picture, because even a picture of them looks different than non-rotating treble hooks. Bassman

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I have 20 new Smithwick rogue lures in my W. I. P..The lures have excalibur rotating hooks and are still in their packages. I see no recognizable feature that distinguishes the rotating hooks from regular trebles. Whats with the rotation bit ? Words are more my craft rather than minute powers of observation. Don’t get me wrong i think the lures are great. Please answer my original rotating hook question. Thank you Al Incomplete angler-writer

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I hate to burst your bubble Alfredo, but I think you’ve got a bad batch of rotating trebles, or possibly impostors. This might be the reason you acquired them so cheap. Real rotating trebles will have the hook point bent slightly sideways to the shank, and are attached with barrel swivels. When retrieved, the hooks will spin around like a propeller. The resulting “whir” sound attracts smallmouth bass and lakers, and will shed weeds like a lawnmower. You should go back and ask the staff at Wal-Mart about this. It could be a proprietary line they’ve commissioned. Shawn

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have 20 new Smithwick rogue lures in my W. I. P..The lures have excalibur rotating hooks and are still in their packages. I see no recognizable feature that distinguishes the rotating hooks from regular trebles. Whats with the rotation bit ? Words are more my craft rather than minute powers of observation. Don’t get me wrong i think the lures are great. Please answer my original rotating hook question. Thank you Al Incomplete angler-writer

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Which do you prefer, Shawn? Clockwise or counter-clockwise? Hear the’re coming out with ball bearing swivels, though only on Excalibur lures for 2002. <)))’

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hate to burst your bubble Alfredo, but I think you’ve got a bad batch of rotating trebles, or possibly impostors. This might be the reason you acquired them so cheap. Real rotating trebles will have the hook point bent slightly sideways to the shank, and are attached with barrel swivels. When retrieved, the hooks will spin around like a propeller. The resulting “whir” sound attracts smallmouth bass and lakers, and will shed weeds like a lawnmower. You should go back and ask the staff at Wal-Mart about this. It could be a proprietary line they’ve commissioned. Shawn I have 20 new Smithwick rogue lures in my W. I. P..The lures have excalibur rotating hooks and are still in their packages. I see no recognizable feature that distinguishes the rotating hooks from regular trebles. Whats with the rotation bit ? Words are more my craft rather than minute powers of observation. Don’t get me wrong i think the lures are great. Please answer my original rotating hook question. Thank you Al Incomplete angler-writer

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Shawn I hate to burst your bubble Alfredo, but I think you’ve got a bad batch of rotating trebles, or possibly impostors. This might be the reason you acquired them so cheap. Real rotating trebles will have the hook point bent slightly sideways to the shank, and are attached with barrel swivels. When retrieved, the hooks will spin around like a propeller. The resulting “whir” sound attracts smallmouth bass and lakers, and will shed weeds like a lawnmower. You should go back and ask the staff at Wal-Mart about this. It could be a proprietary line they’ve commissioned. Shawn

Shawn please don’t call me pseudonym names. There is a reason for saying that to you.The hook point are bent as you have described them. No barrel swivels as far as i can see; maybe i’ll install some in my customization process. I’m going to get more lures. Al Incomplete angler-writer

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Andre, I prefer two trebles rotating in opposite directions…keeps it in balance ya know. ;~)

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Which do you prefer, Shawn? Clockwise or counter-clockwise? Hear the’re coming out with ball bearing swivels, though only on Excalibur lures for 2002. <)))’ I hate to burst your bubble Alfredo, but I think you’ve got a bad batch of rotating trebles, or possibly impostors. This might be the reason you acquired them so cheap. Real rotating trebles will have the hook point bent slightly sideways to the shank, and are attached with barrel swivels. When retrieved, the hooks will spin around like a propeller. The resulting “whir” sound attracts smallmouth bass and lakers, and will shed weeds like a lawnmower. You should go back and ask the staff at Wal-Mart about this. It could be a proprietary line they’ve commissioned. Shawn I have 20 new Smithwick rogue lures in my W. I. P..The lures have excalibur rotating hooks and are still in their packages. I see no recognizable feature that distinguishes the rotating hooks from regular trebles. Whats with the rotation bit ? Words are more my craft rather than minute powers of observation. Don’t get me wrong i think the lures are great. Please answer my original rotating hook question. Thank you Al Incomplete angler-writer

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Northern Bass Supply carries these hooks on page 64 made by Heddon Excalibur item #HE-525-2 (size 2) thru  HE525-6 (size 6).   I haven’t looked for them on the web site www.northernbass.com but the cataloge has a picture that shows the offset of the tip to the shank. — Bill Pentheny Adams Co. (Pa) Bassmasters Chesapeake Bay Retriever Relief & Rescue www.cbrrescue.org

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Is there an advantage to such a hook? They are on a ring rather than a swivel so they can’t fully rotate. I know excalabur hooks are good and smithwick lures are top notch as well. Thanks Al Incomplete angler-writer

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I just got a Smithwick Rogue with Gamakatsu hooks on it (better IMO than Exaclibur hooks) in the mail from Pradco along with a bunch of other free baits.  The Rogue is supposedly a “limited edition” model. Brad “You took the fall and thought of me, above all.” – Michael W. Smith

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I have quite a few and i’m going to customize them. That will make mine better and they won’t be free. MHO Al Incomplete angler-writer

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I don’t know about the hooks coming on swivels of any kind, and never heard of them spinning through the water.  The Excalabur “rotating”  hooks have the tips bent off to one side, rather than being parallel to the shank of the hook.  The fact that the tips are bent slightly is supposed to make tip of the hook more likely to make contact with the bass, that is if you get a strike.  Because of the shape of the hook it is supposed to “turn or rotate” into the flesh of the mouth of the fish. As another responder said, I prefer the non-rotating Gamakatsu hooks.  The main point to a hook (pun intended) is that they have sharp points and the Gamakatsus have that, but any sharp hook will work, including the Excalabur rotating hooks.  The real trick is to get the hook into the basses mouth, so try fishing them rather than worrying so much about how they rotate or whether to change them. Bassman

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there an advantage to such a hook? They are on a ring rather than a swivel so they can’t fully rotate. I know excalabur hooks are good and smithwick lures are top notch as well. Thanks Al Incomplete angler-writer

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I have quite a few and i’m going to customize them. That will make mine better and they won’t be free. MHO

Just remember, a bait is only as good as the guy throwing it, regardless of what you do to it.  Anyone can trick up a bait, but even fewer can make any bait work. Brad “You took the fall and thought of me, above all.” – Michael W. Smith

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I think the rotating part is just a gimmick, but those hooks sure are sharp. I had a bass throw a lure  last year and it came back and hit me in the arm. I had to get my kid to cut it out. I thought he was going to faint, but he made it ok. Mark McCoy <a href=”http://www.mccoysmarket.com”McCoy’s Market </a<br Bumpus Mills, Tennessee<br

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It’s off-season here. Many here tune and modify their lures. The fish are in what they call semi-hibernation. When the fish emerge they fight harder than their down south cousins. They tear into a modified lure. In the off-season here you can aquire stock lures for upgrading at places like walmart. The crafting of lures is a precursor to fishing. MHO Al Incomplete angler-writer

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I don’t know about the hooks coming on swivels of any kind, and never heard of them spinning through the water…….

You were reading a reply to Al, its always dangerous to take a reply like that seriously…  Some of the guys like to tease Mr. Al… — Richard Delaware Bass Stalkers http://www.bassstalkers.com

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So I was emailed. LOL.  Sorry about that! Bassman

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t know about the hooks coming on swivels of any kind, and never heard of them spinning through the water……. You were reading a reply to Al, its always dangerous to take a reply like that seriously…  Some of the guys like to tease Mr. Al… — Richard Delaware Bass Stalkers http://www.bassstalkers.com

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Good grief!  I bought the “rotating hooks on a swivel” thing just like a gut hooked fish.  Hook, line and sinker. I am just getting into this bass fishing and am so lacking in knowledge. Good joke on me and I love it! I do have a question for you folks with bass fishing expertise.  I have been using “Rapala Original” floating lures in the, I believe, 1/8 and 1/4 Oz size for salmon.  Are these any good for bass?  I believe they are made for that purpose but don’t know if they are any good. For salmon I remove the hooks and put a single 3 or 4 ought on the rear with a split ring.  I then tie 4 or 5 pieces of red yarn, long enough to trail over the hook, to the hook ring on the belly of the lure.  Fished from a drifting boat in light chop and light winds about 60 to 100 yards behind the boat on 10 lb. line and a light rod this can be deadly.  Work it like a wounded herring with blood or innards streaming out.  Great fun on 3 to 5 lb. Silvers. Thanks for any feedback on the Rapalas. Best Mike N

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