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Ranger and BASS hound fishing boat canopy

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At the latest Federation meeting,hound fishing boat canopy  we were told that Ranger is very displeased with BASS and will parting with BASS after 2000 due to the new BASS boat racing/hound fishing boat canopy bass fishing tournaments. Anyone else hear this?

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hound fishing boat canopy I somewhat remember the NG talking about it! You must be new or were away for awhile, so either, Welcome Aboard or Welcome Back!

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Hello, you can check out www.bassmaster.com and look over the site www.rangerboats.com for the latest.hound fishing boat canopy  If I still have the press release from Ranger I will post it below in its intrity. Monty For Immediate Release For additional information Contact Lori Hoffpauir (870) 453-2222 www.rangerboats.com Ranger Maintains Its Focus On Fishing. Due to the recent scheduled roll-out of the World Championship Fishing (WCF) Series sanctioned by B.A.S.S., combining racing and fishing, Ranger Boats will cease all negotiations to renew their official B.A.S.S. sponsorship. Although Ranger plans to fulfill all existing obligations under their current agreement, they believe the WCF concept is not in the best long- term interest of the sport or the safety and well-being of the fishing community.hound fishing boat canopy As a result, Ranger has decided against participating in the WCF or any similar activity. Citing conflicts with the direction WCF is taking bass fishing, Ranger President Randy Hopper said, “The WCF is an obvious change in strategy by B.A.S.S. management. For over a quarter of a century, Ranger and B.A.S.S. have shared philosophies with regard to the future and growth of bass fishing. Working together, both have been instrumental in the implementation and adoption of many key initiatives that are commonplace today in promoting conservation and boating safety. With WCF, emphasis has been taken off fishing and placed on racing.” Case in point – the made-for-TV BASS Quest held last August on Rend Lake in Illinois. Unlike ordinary tournaments, BASS Quest combined traditional bass fishing with boat racing. In the racing segment, anglers were timed as they raced their boats over an unorthodox watercourse featuring long straight-aways and narrow twists, turns, and switchbacks.hound fishing boat canopy  In direct contradiction with WCF, Ranger feels bass tournaments do not need to add racing to the format to create more excitement, and does not agree with changing the fundamentals of the sport for the sole reason of appealing to a larger TV audience. Noted Hopper, “We feel there is nothing wrong with thinking “outside the box” to grow the sport. We do, however, have a problem with this concept that changes the essence of the sport. As one angler stated, just imagine a golf tournament where 60% of one’s total score was based on a round of golf and 40% was based on racing a modified golf cart through a planned race course. We believe fishing in and of itself is exciting and is on the rise with its best days ahead. We don’t have anything against racing in its proper context, we just feel there is no place for it in bass fishing. Fishing and tournament fishing are wholesome sports, good for the family and good for the country.” Ranger Vice President of Marketing, Bart Schad voiced his concerns, saying, “Frankly,hound fishing boat canopy the WCF promotes unsafe boating practices. Especially at risk are the young and impressionable. They see the pros racing and performing these extreme maneuvers and think it’s all right for them to do likewise on open public waterways.” Added Schad, “The promotion of racing and the glamorizing of irresponsible driving is a recipe for disaster. ” Commented Hopper, “Ranger has always prided itself on manufacturing the best quality fishing boats possible, cutting no corners –  with safety, stability and fishability in the forefront. We have built our company on these principles and firmly believe that a departure from our foundation to place an emphasis on racing would prove to be a significant disservice and disappointment to our customers. At Ranger, our customers come first.” Ranger Boats, headquartered in Flippin, Arkansas, is the nation’s largest manufacturer of premium fiberglass fishing boats, including a line of more than 40 freshwater boats, and a popular saltwater series. With emphasis on building the best boats in the world, Ranger Boats is still building legends…one at a time.

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It’s welcome back. Sweeper, I am guessing, but after your long sabbatical, you did one of those ‘mark all as read’ thingies when you were overwhelmed by the number of unread posts! Look for the “reply from B.A.S.S.”  and “WCF fishing and Ranger” threads. — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

| LOL . . . Yah, I somewhat remember the NG talking about it! | | You must be new or were away for awhile, so either, Welcome Aboard or | Welcome Back! | | +++<<< Tourney +++ |  Hooking’em & Grinning | |

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It’s welcome back. Sweeper, I am guessing, but after your long sabbatical, you did one of those ‘mark all as read’ thingies when you were overwhelmed by the number of unread posts!

Yep….been gone a while and started from scratch. Sorry if I have re-stirred a sore subject.  I know how some of us here like to “discuss” things.  ;-) Brad

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At the latest Federation meeting, we were told that Ranger is very displeased with BASS and will parting with BASS after 2000 due to the new BASS boat racing/bass fishing tournaments. Anyone else hear this? Hey is this Bad Brad Coovert? Ya, I heard that to. Read on article

about it somewhere. Probably in Bassmasters, as it’s the Federations mag.I kind of have mixed reviews on the new format. Someone is going to get hurt and potentially ruin their career. It is kind of exciting though. What do you think? Before you buy.

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Fish Finder Recommendations ultimate bass fishing fishing boat

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Fishfinders are keeping pace with technology.ultimate bass fishing fishing boat  Everyone likes one kind : or another. I use a Humminbird Wide, but wish I had one of the newultimate bass fishing fishing boat  Lowrance units. : They seem to give the user a better understanding of “Whats down there ! Let me spin a little story here. I am a bit of an electronics nut. I have worked on pretty much everything from tubes to semiconductor circuits over the years. When I used to fix aircraft I noticed a lot of Lowrance equipment. And it always held up. Now that I am into fishing I noticed Lowrance again. At first I just remembered the name from the old aircraft days. Now I have had MANY different fish finders from flashers to LCD’s. My latest unit is a Lowrance Global Map 2000. I bought it mostly for the GPS capabilities. However I have found that the sonar is the best I have ever seen.ultimate bass fishing fishing boat I routinely ignored blips on my old units made by other companies especially when I would see all kinds of blips and not catch a thing. Now with this Lowrance unit the blips are so clear and obvious that I KNOW there are fish below me. My confidence level has increased 1000 per cent. I had a conversation with a friend today about this very subject and we both came up with the same statement. There is Lowrance and there are the other guys. Everyone else is in second place. Now I don’t mean to bad mouth the competitors but it is my opinion that Lowrance makes the best fish finders in the business. Now if I could just get them for a sponsor…ultimate bass fishing fishing boat Good luck and good fishing, All About Computers

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just noticed your post on “How to buy a Bass Boat” – can you give me details on the book, author, publisher,ultimate bass fishing fishing boat etc., how do I get a copy? Seems like I keep finding old posts of your.  I guess I should spend more time on line. Thanks

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Have you read the book, ” How To Buy a Bassboat”ultimate bass fishing fishing boat ? I bought a copy of it and saved a pile of money on my Bassboat, using the procedures described in the book.     Fishfinders are keeping pace with technology. Everyone likes one kind or another. I use a Humminbird Wide, but wish I had one of the new Lowrance units. They seem to give the user a better understanding of “Whats down there ! I have a Lowrance X-70-A on my boat and it has got to be one of the best units I have ever owned.  It performs great for winter fishing. It is fairly easy to distiguish schools of fish bunched up on points.ultimate bass fishing fishing boat I would suggest to anyone to take a look at this unit.

I use a Lowrance 380-LMS and an X-70 on my boat and have been pleased with the performance of both. I have used other brands, but prefer Lowrance. I’m saving money to get the latest model with GPS capability. Later, “Bassin Bean” Boston Bass Anglers

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Have you read the book, ” How To Buy a Bassboat” ? I bought a copy of it and saved a pile of money on my Bassboat, using the procedures described in the book.     Fishfinders are keeping pace with technology. Everyone likes one kind or another. I use a Humminbird Wide, but wish I had one of the new Lowrance units. They seem to give the user a better understanding of “Whats down there !

I have a Lowrance X-70-A on my boat and it has got to be one of the best units I have ever owned.  It performs great for winter fishing. It is fairly easy to distiguish schools of fish bunched up on points. I would suggest to anyone to take a look at this unit.

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Fishfinders are keeping pace with technology. Everyone likes one kind : or another. I use a Humminbird Wide, but wish I had one of the new : Lowrance units. : They seem to give the user a better understanding of “Whats down there ! Let me spin a little story here. I am a bit of an electronics nut. I have worked on pretty much everything from tubes to semiconductor circuits over the years. When I used to fix aircraft I noticed a lot of Lowrance equipment. And it always held up. Now that I am into fishing I noticed Lowrance again. At first I just remembered the name from the old aircraft days. Now I have had MANY different fish finders from flashers to LCD’s. My latest unit is a Lowrance Global Map 2000. I bought it mostly for the GPS capabilities. However I have found that the sonar is the best I have ever seen. I routinely ignored blips on my old units made by other companies especially when I would see all kinds of blips and not catch a thing. Now with this Lowrance unit the blips are so clear and obvious that I KNOW there are fish below me. My confidence level has increased 1000 per cent. I had a conversation with a friend today about this very subject and we both came up with the same statement. There is Lowrance and there are the other guys. Everyone else is in second place. Now I don’t mean to bad mouth the competitors but it is my opinion that Lowrance makes the best fish finders in the business. Now if I could just get them for a sponsor.

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Go with the lorance,ultimate bass fishing fishing boat Even their low end units are better than hummingbirds good models! Dont get all wraped up in the gadgets, they cant catch the fish.

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Have you read the book, ” How To Buy a Bassboat” ? I bought a copy of it and saved a pile of money on my Bassboat, using the procedures described in the book.      Fishfinders are keeping pace with technology. Everyone likes one kind or another. I use a Humminbird Wide, but wish I had one of the new Lowrance units. They seem to give the user a better understanding of “Whats down there !

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I am buying my first bass fishing boat and want to add a sonar unit. I am interested in getting the best unit I can. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Gadget Guy Cogito, ergo boom hookum – “I think, therefore I hunt and fish”

I strongly recommend a Lowrance unit.  I currently own both a Lowrance x-60 and a Humminbird Wide Vision.  I think Lowrance units have the best resolution by far.  Whatever brand you choose, by far the most important specification is VERTICAL PIXELS. The more vertical pixels, the better resolution the unit will have, and the greater the detail that will show on the screen.  Good luck…if you have further questions, e-mail me at

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I have owned about a dozen depth sounders, among them Lowrance, Eagle, Humminbird and Apelco, in that order of preference. Eagle is merely the freshwater division of Lowrance sounders.   My advise to you, is to obtain a Lowrance/Eagle brochure and select the features that appeal most to you (no one can do that for you).     However, don’t make the mistake so many fishermen make, by calling them “fish finders”.  They are “depth sounders”, which as you stated, is a sonar unit (SOund Navigating Radar) used for monitoring water depth.  To be sure, a sounder may be used to look for pelagic marine species, such as bluefish and weakfish. Notwithstanding, largemouth, smallmouth, walleye and pike, are essentially bottom dwellers.  In freshwater, it is far more profitable to look for channel ledges, sunken humps, weedbeds, stumps, brushpiles and wads of prey fish (which are pelagic).   In this sense, they are fish finders, because once you have found cover and forage, you have found game fish.  It is generally futile to look for game fish per se, on the screen of a depth sounder. I offer you nothing, I haven’t learned myself, the hard way. To begin with, game fish spend most of their lives not feeding. As often as not, you will catch nothing while the screen is littered with mid-water blips, and do your best when the screen is clean.   Far more significant is whether the boat is still positioned over the edge of a weed bed or drop-off, and that you haven’t   drifted or trolled up on the flat or out over the channel.   Lowrance will never tell you this, but fishermen who are not willing to learn the art of “contour fishing”, have little to gain from a depth sounder.  On balance, looking directly for game fish on the screen, like chasing rainbows, can be a powerful waste of valuable fishing time. 1.  Neutrally weighted “Debris” looks just like fish on the screen. 2.  If the blips are fish indeed, you can’t be sure of the “Species” 3.  If you knew the markings were fish, and you even knew the species,      you still haven’t a clue as to whether or not they are “Feeding”. Tight Lines, Roger F.

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I am buying my first bass fishing boat and want to add a sonar unit. I am interested in getting the best unit I can. Does anyone have experience with units from Lowrance, Eagle, Humminbird, etc.? I understand that there are big differences in their displays when viewed in direct sunlight or through polarized glasses. Are any of them actually better at “finding fish”? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Gadget Guy Cogito, ergo boom hookum – “I think, therefore I hunt and fish”

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Florida bass fishing?bass fishing fishing contest When is good to go?

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Piece of cake Mark!  Get on Babcock street in Melbourne & head south through Palm Bay & into the “boonies”.bass fishing fishing contest  One of the best bass fishing areas in the country lies right down the road- The Stickmarsh & Farm 13!  I’d suggest calling a local guide to take you out there.  You’ll probably catch the trophy bass of your life…GOOD LUCK! Regards, bass fishing fishing contest My wife & I are planning to visit my inlaws this spring, and the 2 weeks we have to decide between is the first & the 2nd week in March.  I’m sure bass season will be pretty well along by then down there, and we’re wondering if either week would be better. Also, where would be a good place to fish?  They live in Rockledge, which is right near Melbourne, maybe halfway down the east coast.  Are they any places to rent fishing boats, or are there any good charter services in this area? Thanks,

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My wife & I are planning to visit my inlaws this spring,bass fishing fishing contest and the 2 weeks we have to decide between is the first & the 2nd week in March.  I’m sure bass season will be pretty well along by then down there, and we’re wondering if either week would be better. Also, where would be a good place to fish?  They live in Rockledge, which is right near Melbourne, maybe halfway down the east coast.bass fishing fishing contest  Are they any places to rent fishing boats, or are there any good charter services in this area? Thanks,

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Aluminum vs glass bass raide pontoon fishing boat

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Steve’s Aluminum versus Fiberglass FAQ is on line.bass raide pontoon fishing boat  Go to http://rofb.home.mindspring.com/faqs.html — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

| What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I | need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. | | | | Aaron | |

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The faq.  Thanks for posting the address for the faq.  I checked it out and found a lot of great information there.  I printed a few of the articles out & will read them later.  Good stuff bass raide pontoon fishing boat  Steve’s Aluminum versus Fiberglass FAQ is on line.  Go to http://rofb.home.mindspring.com/faqs.html — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray | What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I | need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. | | | | Aaron | |

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bass raide pontoon fishing boatSteve has put together a FAQ and shipped it to me today.  Will get it up soon. — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

| Mark, this is exactly why I believe we need a good chapter on our FAQ about | glass vs. aluminum.  Bass fishermen are a different breed of cat vs. other | fishermen; our gear is more specialized and so are our boats.  If you have | been following this group for two years, you will have noticed that the | aluminum vs. glass question has come up at least a dozen times.  There | probably are no clear answers, because each of us has a particular | need–weight vs. stability vs. speed vs. price vs. maneuverability vs. size, | etc., etc.  I don’t have a bass boat any more, and do all my fishing from a | canoe, but those who have, need, or want bass boats need a source of | information that you won’t be able to get from a rec/boat/group.  Some of | you guys are in the business.  Some of you have owned several bass boats, | maybe as many as ten.  I would like to see some factual information about | each, not “I’ve owned a Bassbiter III and think it is the greatest, wouldn’t | own any other.”  This is a personal choice; we need to see some facts, not | emotional responses.  Things like: glass hulls are stronger because…. | aluminum costs less to run because… welded is better than rivets | because… you can patch glass easier than aluminum because…  and so | forth.  Maybe some of you guys have worked for a bass boat company in the | past (or even present), and could let the rest of us in on some of the | secrets (?) of one or the other. | | Warren Funk | | I’ve found that asking bass boat related questions in a regular boating | group doesn’t really work because most of those folks don’t know anything | about bass boats.  For instance, I asked which prop would be better, a 3 | blade or a 4 blade for a boat with 2 people and fully loaded with tournament | gear.  Of the few people that wrote back, they all said they didn’t really | know anything about fishing boats, just pleasure boats.  I posted the same | question here and had 5 or 6 great replies the next day, which was a great | help.  Anyway, that was just my experience from posting there. | — | Mark | | http://skippermark.com/ | To reply, remove the NOSPAM | | I believe for boat info, the poster can be directed to the proper news | group, (e.g. alt.boat, rec.boats, rec.boats.building, | rec.boats.cruising, rec.boats.electronics, rec.boats.marketplace). | | We are fisherman, not boatman. We all have varied opinions and that’s | what they are, opinions. |

| | For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over | the | past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in | buying | a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our | boat | experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions | could | be consolidated into a small manual! | | Warren Funk | | What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass | boats? | I | need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. | | | | Aaron | | | | | — | Capt. Ed Brown | Manager, Forest City Software | http://www.wwa.com/~capted | | | | | |

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Mark, this is exactly why I believe we need a good chapter on our FAQ about glass vs. aluminum.  Bass fishermen are a different breed of cat vs. other fishermen; our gear is more specialized and so are our boats.  If you have been following this group for two years, you will have noticed that the aluminum vs. glass question has come up at least a dozen times.  There probably are no clear answers, because each of us has a particular need–weight vs. stability vs. speed vs. price vs. maneuverability vs. size, etc., etc.  I don’t have a bass boat any more, and do all my fishing from a canoe, but those who have, need, or want bass boats need a source of information that you won’t be able to get from a rec/boat/group.  Some of you guys are in the business.  Some of you have owned several bass boats, maybe as many as ten.  I would like to see some factual information about each, not “I’ve owned a Bassbiter III and think it is the greatest, wouldn’t own any other.”  This is a personal choice; we need to see some facts, not emotional responses.  Things like: glass hulls are stronger because…. aluminum costs less to run because… welded is better than rivets because… you can patch glass easier than aluminum because…  and so forth.  Maybe some of you guys have worked for a bass boat company in the past (or even present), and could let the rest of us in on some of the secrets (?) of one or the other. Warren Funk I’ve found that asking bass boat related questions in a regular boating

group doesn’t really work because most of those folks don’t know anything about bass boats.  For instance, I asked which prop would be better, a 3 blade or a 4 blade for a boat with 2 people and fully loaded with tournament gear.  Of the few people that wrote back, they all said they didn’t really know anything about fishing boats, just pleasure boats.  I posted the same question here and had 5 or 6 great replies the next day, which was a great help.  Anyway, that was just my experience from posting there. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Mark http://skippermark.com/ To reply, remove the NOSPAM I believe for boat info, the poster can be directed to the proper news group, (e.g. alt.boat, rec.boats, rec.boats.building, rec.boats.cruising, rec.boats.electronics, rec.boats.marketplace). We are fisherman, not boatman. We all have varied opinions and that’s what they are, opinions. For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over the past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in buying a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our boat experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions could be consolidated into a small manual! Warren Funk What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. Aaron — Capt. Ed Brown Manager, Forest City Software http://www.wwa.com/~capted

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Aaron, most of the other folks have told you advantages and disadvantages of each hull material.  From personal experience, I would go with fiberglass. Last year we bought an aluminum boat & loved it, but this was our first real boat & had nothing to compare it to.  After riding in it for the summer, I found the ride to be a lot rougher than expected, probably due to the lighter weight of the hull, 900 pounds v. 1500 ore more for fiberglass, however it was fast for the money, about 55 according to GPS. After weighing out the differences, though, I felt a fiberglass boat would be better for us.  The heavier weight & the availability of a dual console would make the ride better for my wife, which was an important consideration, plus there is far more storage area in the fiberglass boat. Last factor is cost, and others have said the price differences are growing smaller between the two.  They’re right.  I think fiberglass boats cost more partially because you need a bigger motor to go a certain speed than you would with an aluminum hull to go the same speed.  All in all, I liked our aluminum boat and found that it was a perfect first boat for me.  I wasn’t hard on it, but I didn’t know how to maneuver near docks and things like that, so I’d bump the dock accidentally.  With a fiberglass model, there possibly could have been some minor scratches or cracks from that.  If you’re an experienced boater, I’d go with the fiberglass model or you may end up trading up in a year & spending unneeded money like we did.  Good luck in your quest, however. — Mark http://skippermark.com/ To reply, remove the NOSPAM

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Mark, you are correct.  The newsgroup Charter, developed before I subscribed, supports your view.  This group is about those of us who are afflicted with Bassin’ fever and anything that might help us catch an Ellusive Black Beauty. The Charter: CHARTER – Rec.Outdoors.Fishing.Bass The group rec.outdoors.fishing.bass is for the discussion of freshwater bass fishing techniques and related activities.  It includes but is not limited to:   bass   lakes information   how to’s   baits, equipment, and boats as they relate to the pursuit of bass.  Money-making schemes, advertising, and other types of fishing are not appropriate in the group. <end charter — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray | I’ve found that asking bass boat related questions in a regular boating | group doesn’t really work because most of those folks don’t know anything | about bass boats.  For instance, I asked which prop would be better, a 3 | blade or a 4 blade for a boat with 2 people and fully loaded | with tournament gear.  Of the few people that wrote back, they all said they | didn’t really know anything about fishing boats, just pleasure boats.  I | posted the same question here and had 5 or 6 great replies the next day, | which was a great help.  Anyway, that was just my experience from posting | there. | — | Mark | | http://skippermark.com/ | To reply, remove the NOSPAM | | I believe for boat info, the poster can be directed to the proper news | group, (e.g. alt.boat, rec.boats, rec.boats.building, | rec.boats.cruising, rec.boats.electronics, rec.boats.marketplace). | | We are fisherman, not boatman. We all have varied opinions and that’s | what they are, opinions. |

| | For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over the | past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in | buying | a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our | boat | experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions | could | be consolidated into a small manual! | | Warren Funk | | What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? | I | need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. | | | | Aaron | | | | | — | Capt. Ed Brown | Manager, Forest City Software | http://www.wwa.com/~capted | | | |

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I’ve found that asking bass boat related questions in a regular boating group doesn’t really work because most of those folks don’t know anything about bass boats.  For instance, I asked which prop would be better, a 3 blade or a 4 blade for a boat with 2 people and fully loaded with tournament gear.  Of the few people that wrote back, they all said they didn’t really know anything about fishing boats, just pleasure boats.  I posted the same question here and had 5 or 6 great replies the next day, which was a great help.  Anyway, that was just my experience from posting there. — Mark http://skippermark.com/ To reply, remove the NOSPAM

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I believe for boat info, the poster can be directed to the proper news group, (e.g. alt.boat, rec.boats, rec.boats.building, rec.boats.cruising, rec.boats.electronics, rec.boats.marketplace). We are fisherman, not boatman. We all have varied opinions and that’s what they are, opinions. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over the past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in buying a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our boat experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions could be consolidated into a small manual! Warren Funk What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. Aaron

– Capt. Ed Brown Manager, Forest City Software http://www.wwa.com/~capted

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Bob R. writes: B) Types of Bass Boats        a) Tournament (Fiberglass)        b) Jon (Aluminum)        c) Small Two-person (Plastic)        d) Float Tubes (Inflatable)

I wouldn’t  mind hearing more about the jon boat. Al

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Hello,     I have had a Ranger 107 with a 60 hp Evinrude for about 5 years. The boat and motor have given me only a few minor problems. I fish Lake Barkely 2-4 times a month Spring to Fall.     The 5 degree bottom on the boat does make for a rough ride on a windy day.     My boat compared to the fiberglass boats is narrow. Because of this and the durability of the aluminum I can get back into the creek channels (talk about a fishing safari!).     The reasons I might go to a fiberglass are the speed, looks, more storage, etc.     I really like the Ranger R93! Right now I can’t justify that much money.     One important note IMHO, is to stay away form riveted hulls. I think if my boat had rivets they would be leaking by now. Regards, Brian

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What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. Aaron

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You can hammer out dents in the Aluminum.

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What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys.

Hi Aaron, There are advantages to both, just as there are disadvantages to both. Aluminum boats are “usually” less expensive, but with the adding of whistles and bells, decks and such, the price gap is rapidly closing.  Aluminum is again “usually” lighter than fiberglass, requiring less horsepower outboards and smaller tow vehicles but again, with the addition of double hulls, thicker aluminum and accessories, aluminum boats are not much lighter than fiberglass.  But I have a 17′ fiberglass boat that weighs 1100 pounds, one of my guides has an AlumaCraft 17′ boat that weighs 200 pounds more. Aluminum can only be bent so many ways that there are design restrictions placed, while fiberglass can be molded into much more efficient, albeit somewhat heavier hulls.  This can result in a smoother, dryer ride. Fiberglass hulls are much warmer if you fish in climates like I do, aluminum boats conduct cold like you wouldn’t believe. If you run onto rocks or hit a stump at speed, dents in aluminum can be pounded out.  If you do hole the hull however, you will have to find someone who can weld aluminum.  In my neck of the woods, these guys are hard to find.  Most body shops can repair fiberglass boats if you should punch through.  Hits that would dent most aluminum hulls will just crack/scratch the gelcoat on glass boats, while cosmetically not cool, that shouldn’t effect the hull integrity. In my estimation, fiberglass offers many more advantages than disadvantages that the price/weight difference is minimal. But that’s just my take on things, p.s., my boat’s for sale, if you want more info on it, e-mail me. — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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I have a Jetcraft ( http://www.jetcraftboats.com/ ) Alum boat.  0.190 thick bottom.  Unless you hit a boulder really hard, there is no dent.  I do have a couple of dents.  It is a little wetter in nasty water, and a flatter bottom so pounds in big chop.  I do not get as upset when I hit a rock in the river as with a glass boat.  I do get more careless in where I go because of the durability.  For bass fishing only, the glass boats are steadier, and faster, less affected by wind.  I also fish other types of fish as then I can catch something.  :^)  and this boat is a more all around boat.  My jon boat is cold, but this boat, has floorboards and flotation so do not see any difference. Bill

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For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over the past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in buying a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our boat experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions could be consolidated into a small manual! Warren Funk

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Not a bad idea.  That section is empty.     B) Types of Bass Boats         a) Tournament (Fiberglass)         b) Jon (Aluminum)         c) Small Two-person (Plastic)         d) Float Tubes (Inflatable) I will look around and see if someone has given a good description.  I can recall several posts that had some good points.  Anyone up to putting together a FAQ on the main advantages of each?  And there sure have been a lot of discussion about the light rigs and float tubes.  Any volunteers for these? — Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    Columbia, SC  Lake Murray

| For Bob Redding –  Bob, we have had this discussion several time over the | past four months.  Apparently a lot of new members are interested in buying | a boat.  Have there been any “outstanding” responses from some of our boat | experts which could go in the FAQ?  Seems like some of these questions could | be consolidated into a small manual! | | Warren Funk |

| What are the advantages and disadvantages or aluminum and glass boats? I | need to see what I should start looking for. Thanks guys. | | | | Aaron | | | |

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Kenny’s my main man.  He did some work on my boat this spring at his house. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Good choice Warren,     make sure to see Kenny Gaun  he is very knowledgeable!

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bass raide fishing fishing boat  Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.  My question is how well suited is a float tube for Bass or Trout fishing?  Also what other kind of gear is needed to successfully use a float tube?  Also any suggestions on what to look for in a tube would be appreciated.  Thanks for the time and good luck out there. -bass raide fishing fishing boat- Taylor Well, Taylor, let me tell you.  Float tubes are GREAT for bass fishing (and trout, as well)!  Nothin’ like bein’ out there *swimmin’ with the fish*!  I’ve gone a step further myself & got an 8′ Outcast *kickboat*, which takes all the best advantages of a float tube & MULTIPLIES ‘em (i.e., greater range and comfort; more load-carrying capacity; better at handling the wind, etc.) About 80% of the guys in my ‘float tube’ fishing club (‘Bass-n-Tubes,’ out of San Jose/Gilroy, CA) have graduated to kickboats now, in various configurations/sizes/manufacturers.  They cost 4-5 times as much as a float tube 2) some quality swim fins (I use a pair of full-sized scuba fins for maximum thrust, but you can get by with something much cheaper -bass raide fishing fishing boat- just don’t skimp too much on QUALITY!). See you out there! J Smith Sunnyvale, CA

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I have a tube, but if I catch a big fish, sometimes it takes me awhile to bring it in because the tube offers little “fighting” resistence (I’m talking 15+lb catfish here, not 5lb bass…).  I have wondered if I put too much stress on the fish because I fought it so long. My question is then; does the kickboat offer more resistence than a tube so that you can bring the fish in faster given the same terminal tackle? Thanks in advance, Jay I’d rather be chasing walleye’s…at Tenmile Lake! Jay,  I love fishing from my tube and use it on big water and small, current and not.  It is by far may favorite way to fish. For landing (or should that be tubing, grabbing, or wrestling???) big fish, I try to head for the bank or anywhere I can get my feet on the bottom if I hook a big one.  That way I have the leverage to get them in without being towed all over the lake.  But heck, that’s one of the things I love about fishing the tube – having a hawg tow and spin me around a couple of times! Good Fishing Robert in Missouri

One time on Babe Winkelman’s TV show, he was fishing sturgeon out west, and the guide convinced him to get into a float tube after hooking a huge sturgeon. The guide said it was “what the locals do, riding the sturgeon”. It turns out the guide was pulling his leg about the locals, but it sure was funny watching that tube kick up a wake as Babe cruised around the lake hollering. He did eventually land the fish, on a rocky bank, with help from the guide in the boat. It was a hilarious episode.

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I have a tube,bass raide fishing fishing boat  but if I catch a big fish, sometimes it takes me awhile to bring it in because the tube offers little “fighting” resistence (I’m talking 15+lb catfish here, not 5lb bass…).  I have wondered if I put too much stress on the fish because I fought it so long. My question is then; does the kickboat offer more resistence than a tube so that you can bring the fish in faster given the same terminal tackle? Thanks in advance, Jay I’d rather be chasing walleye’s.bass raide fishing fishing boat..at Tenmile Lake!

Jay,  I love fishing from my tube and use it on big water and small, current and not.  It is by far may favorite way to fish. For landing (or should that be tubing, grabbing, or wrestling???) big fish, I try to head for the bank or anywhere I can get my feet on the bottom if I hook a big one.  That way I have the leverage to get them in without being towed all over the lake.  But heck, that’s one of the things I love about fishing the tube – having a hawg tow and spin me around a couple of times! Good Fishing Robert in Missouri

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.   Taylor Well, Taylor, let me tell you.  Float tubes are GREAT for bass fishing (and trout, as well)!  Nothin’ like bein’ out there *swimmin’ with the fish*!  I’ve gone a step further myself & got an 8′ Outcast *kickboat*, which takes all the best advantages of a float tube & MULTIPLIES ‘em (i.e., greater range and comfort; more load-carrying capacity; better at handling the wind, etc.) J Smith Sunnyvale, CA

This brings a question to mind… I have a tube, but if I catch a big fish, sometimes it takes me awhile to bring it in because the tube offers little “fighting” resistence (I’m talking 15+lb catfish here, not 5lb bass…).  I have wondered if I put too much stress on the fish because I fought it so long. My question is then; does the kickboat offer more resistence than a tube so that you can bring the fish in faster given the same terminal tackle? Thanks in advance, Jay I’d rather be chasing walleye’s…at Tenmile Lake!

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Canoes are great even for salt water.  I can throw mine on my roof by myself, dont have to spend time inflating anything. I have caught fish as large as 20 lb Rockfish in local rivers and inlets.  The current can be interesting but if you dont draft too much you paddle across most flows.  I tried a float tube once and any current really drags you around.  A small trolling motor is helpfull if you are going far, but paddles alone put you past the distance of a float tube. — Wishin I Was Fishin Paul

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Well, Taylor, let me tell you.  Float tubes are GREAT for bass fishing (and trout, as well)!  Nothin’ like bein’ out there *swimmin’ with the fish*!  I’ve gone a step further myself & got an 8′ Outcast *kickboat*, which takes all the best advantages of a float tube & MULTIPLIES ‘em (i.e., greater range and comfort; more load-carrying capacity; better at handling the wind, etc.)

Could you say a bit more about these kickboats & where you get them? I’ve seen the Hobie models, but not much else around. Any place local to see them? Richard Menlo Park, CA P.S. You must be a Stevens Creek Reservoir fan there in Sunnyvale!

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I have been float tubing for bass for three years now.  I find it to be the most enjoyable way to fish on a really hot day.  I looked for the tue with the most (highest) back support when purchasing, but in hind sight I would say get one that gets you as high up out of the water as possible.  This will give you the best use of your arms.  I have found that lots of pockets are very helpful too.  It let’s you stash several bags of baits, and small Plano boxes.  If you are going to fish for many hours straight then a light pair of neoprene waiders may be necessary.   Personally I just were shorts.  The only other required items are fins.  I just wear my diving fins, but I am planning to buy a shorter pair.   In Maine, where I do my float tubing, a life jacket is required also.  I would wear one regardless.  A VERY bright colored hat is also good.   Let’s boaters see you.  I wear hunter orange.  I have found it is easier to use a spinning rig in hte tube. You can really fish the heck out of docks in the tube.  It is extremely manuverable.  It’s like haveing an intelligent trolling motor. Good Luck, I think you will enjoy it. Bernie Kosicki

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Before you commit to float tubing, you may want to consider a canoe, either new or used.  Costing a lot less than a boat and trailer rig, you can transport a canoe on top of your car.  And it will get you into water that most boats can’t touch.  Also, it’s great for small ponds and lakes.  With a small electric trolling motor, some savvy and lots of common sense, you can venture out on larger lakes (fresh water only!), too. I have both a canoe and a nice fishing boat.  Sometimes I think I prefer the canoe over the boat.  It’s a whole lot simpler. Bucky Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.

Sorry to quote as much as I did… Actually, I own all three.  A full size boat, canoe, and a tube (I still wade and shore fish when conditions call for it too).   My point is that each has a definite advantage over the other.  Where I’m from we have lots of borrow pits along the interstate where a canoe can get blown around alot in the wind so the tube becomes a more stable platform to fish from.  We also have some old strip pits that you have to walk a long way to get back to so the tube comes in handy again.  You COULD use a canoe in either of these situations but it is not condusive to the conditions. Consider very carefully before investing in any vehicle.  You might find you wanted the other instead… Oh, BTW, my wife and I ADORE those midnight cruises during the full moon in the canoe…can’t carry passengers in a tube! Jay Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.                                           Henry David Thoreau

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Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.  My question is how well suited is a float tube for Bass or Trout fishing?  Also what other kind of gear is needed to successfully use a float tube?  Also any suggestions on what to look for in a tube would be appreciated.  Thanks for the time and good luck out there. — Taylor

Well, Taylor, let me tell you.  Float tubes are GREAT for bass fishing (and trout, as well)!  Nothin’ like bein’ out there *swimmin’ with the fish*!  I’ve gone a step further myself & got an 8′ Outcast *kickboat*, which takes all the best advantages of a float tube & MULTIPLIES ‘em (i.e., greater range and comfort; more load-carrying capacity; better at handling the wind, etc.) About 80% of the guys in my ‘float tube’ fishing club (‘Bass-n-Tubes,’ out of San Jose/Gilroy, CA) have graduated to kickboats now, in various configurations/sizes/manufacturers.  They cost 4-5 times as much as a float tube, but are well worth the added cost, and still have similar advantages in terms of portability, no need for registration or trailers, etc. (you might need a roof rack or a pickup truck). However, getting back to your query, float tubes are quite popular out here in California.  They are the TRUE ‘poor man’s bass boat’!  If that’s all you can afford right now, I say GO FOR IT!  Just get yourself:  1) a good set of neoprene waders (3mm works great.  I use stockingfoot waders, myself, but some of my buddies use the booted type — depends on your fins); 2) some quality swim fins (I use a pair of full-sized scuba fins for maximum thrust, but you can get by with something much cheaper — just don’t skimp too much on QUALITY!). The ‘U-boat’ shaped tubes are probably more deluxe than the standard oval tubes, and are easier to get in & out of, but they, too are gonna cost you more.  Again, it’s a matter of just how much you can afford, and what your preferences are. In any case, float tube, u-boat, or kickboat — they all are viable options, one just as ’stealthy’ as the other (I LOVE mine for getting in tight to heavy cover, for some serious FLIPPIN’ — you can really sneak up on ‘em!).  You can dress ‘em all up with multi-rod holders, fishfinders, livewells, etc. (some of these guys in my club get REAL creative!). It’s a whole new world of adventure!  It can be EXTREMELY relaxing, being out there all alone, quietly ambling along the shoreline, enjoying mother nature in all her glory, with no motors, gas fumes, etc.  You see ducks, squirrels, herons, frogs, cows — I even saw a *turkey* once!  I also like the ability to rotate my boat immediately on contact for a solid hookset, or spin it around & around when a fish (especially a good-sized smallmouth!) doesn’t wanna come in right away!  You just play ‘em as they come.  Ah, the good life! Anyways, if you have some nearby waters where there’s good shoreline cover, or at least access to some good fishin’ for stretches of a mile or more, you can have a lot more fun and reach alot more ’serious spots’ in a tube than you can from the shore, that’s for sure!  I say, GO FOR IT! See you out there! J Smith Sunnyvale, CA

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Before you commit to float tubing, you may want to consider a canoe, either new or used.  Costing a lot less than a boat and trailer rig, you can transport a canoe on top of your car.  And it will get you into water that most boats can’t touch.  Also, it’s great for small ponds and lakes.  With a small electric trolling motor, some savvy and lots of common sense, you can venture out on larger lakes (fresh water only!), too. I have both a canoe and a nice fishing boat.  Sometimes I think I prefer the canoe over the boat.  It’s a whole lot simpler. Bucky – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.  My question is how well suited is a float tube for Bass or Trout fishing?  Also what other kind of gear is needed to successfully use a float tube?  Also any suggestions on what to look for in a tube would be appreciated.  Thanks for the time and good luck out there. — Taylor

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Another question from a novice fisherman.  I am curious about float tubes and Bass fishing.  I can’t afford a boat, don’t have the means to tow it anyway, and have been considering getting a float tube.  My question is how well suited is a float tube for Bass or Trout fishing?  Also what other kind of gear is needed to successfully use a float tube?  Also any suggestions on what to look for in a tube would be appreciated.  Thanks for the time and good luck out there. — Taylor

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I have to agree with Craig.landau bass fishing boat  Good days on the water for me, whether catching or not, is being where the Beauties are.  Don’t know about anyone else here, but I have never caught a Beauty while on plane.  Boat racing and the gentle sport of bassing and enjoying nature do not mix well, at least not for me.landau bass fishing boat    Go Fishing.  And may your fish be as big as your tales.    landau bass fishing boat My objection to this format has never been about the safety of the event, at the event.  My objection is that some kid or group of kids are going to emulate this event in an uncontrolled setting.  Anybody who doesn’t realize that alot of experience is needed before doing something like this is going to make a grave mistake. Whether it be boat racing, motocross, street luge, skateboarding, or whatever. I also dislike the fact that the event is promoted as a means to help promote bass fishing.  That is a lie!  If anyone can logically explain to me how boat racing helps promote bass fishing I’ll shut up about this subject. Go see one and you will shut up. Believe me, I was skeptical. But then I saw how much fun those fellas were having. The pros there had nothing but good things to say about the format. Lastly, not everyone has what it takes to drive our highways.landau bass fishing boat Boycott that first, and then go after “BASSCAR”. Earl Bentz says this type of event helps the boat manufacturers to design better boats for fishing.  Then he introduced a new 20XP center console boat especially designed for this activity.  How does this boat help bass fishing.  You have a full blown racing boat with casting decks.  Handles great with one person, but because of it’s design is less safe with the traditional two people (tournament) normally aboard a bass fishing boat, because now the boat’s center of gravity is offset.  Nitro’s 911 is a much better center console design, but then again, it was designed with fishing in mind and not boat racing. Nothing like you mention was run today. Here’s a scenario for you. Take a man with some money to blow. He buys a boat and thinks he soooooo smart. Well he does all sorts of things to this boat and goes out thinking he’s going to be the envy of all people on the water. His experience is minimal and his idiot factor is high. Too bad, he’s going to endanger himself and many others in his personal quest to show off. But aint that America. Some learn the hard way and it’s thier God given right. If you think this is not having an effect on younger anglers, let me share this little story.landau bass fishing boat  There is a kid (17 years old) that fishes my home lake. He has a 17 foot Javelin and his buddy has a 17 foot Stratos.   Thank God these boats only have 90 hp motors.  Here is two kids emulating the WCF format.  Only two days ago, they out running a course they developed using water skier buoys that they stole from the local ski club’s course. Where did they setup this course, in the narrowest and one of the busiest sections of the lake.  I go to launch my boat and almost get the back of my boat ripped off as this kid and his buddy were cutting the corner of their homemade race track.  Being the stupid S.O.B. I am, I put myself and my boat into harms way and blocked them on their returning pass.  I yelled at them with little effect.  Here in each boat was two young men and two young ladies (8 people).  One girl was sitting in the back pedal seat on both boats.  How stupid can they be. . . But here they are . . . .  As I was pulling out, I noticed that they went right back at it.  So I called my buddy the local sheriff, and the parents of two young ladies (neighbor kids) I knew.  My buddy was already on the water and cruised in and arrested both the young men driving the boats, (I think they were charged for stealing the buoys and something like reckless endangerment).  The girls parents showed up as the boats were being loaded.  They thanked me and my buddy the sheriff.  An 1/8 of a mile away is a shallow bay that is huge and nobody fishes or using the area.landau bass fishing boat  Flat, 3′ deep, no cover or structure, it just dead water (an old camp ground before the area was flooded).  I still would have been concerned about the neighbor’s girls being in the boats, but it would have been a lot safer.  No, they setup in the river near a launch and near a bridge that somebody coming under would be right in the middle of their turn on this course.  The kid in the Javelin is always talking about being a pro angler.  That is how he wants to make his living.  I assure you the WCF is what prompted this kid in setting up this course.  The kid is not happy with what happened, but he was man enough to come up to me today and apologize, and we even fished together for about an hour. Where are the parents when all this is going on? Kinda sounds like they suck. Kinda sounds like they got more money than they got common sense. But aint that America. It’s simple, they don’t call it the top because that’s where you start at. You don’t bite off more than you can chew. It’s the same with any sport. Keep boat racing out of bass fishing events, or we are going to see more events like the one I broke up two days ago, and bass boats and anglers are going to develop the same bad reputation that PWCs have already. Everybody hates PWCs all because of a few A–holes.  Bass Anglers are going to be next if this keeps up, because it will be the young anglers creating the problems on the lakes. I realize that I cannot compete in this format. I do not have all the pieces of the puzzle required to achieve this. Why is it so wrong for those that have the pieces in place to do this? From what I saw, the pros were having fun. Do you want to take that away from them? Running that course looked like alot of fun. Like I said, go se one and you’ll shut up.  Rip

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<Snip Keep boat racing out of bass fishing events, or we are going to see more events like the one I broke up two days ago, and bass boats and anglers are going to develop the same bad reputation that PWCs have already.  Everybody hates PWCs all because of a few A–holes.  Bass Anglers are going to be next if this keeps up, because it will be the young anglers creating the problems on the lakes.

I hate to be the one to mention it because I have been as bass angler my entire life, but there are already a good number of people out there who hate bass anglers.  Even before the racing events, there were and still are several anglers that either show no regard for others by running too close to them or by simply trying to crowd someone out of a spot once they determine the other boat is not in their tournament.  I have seen it happen and have had it happen to me enough times to speak from experience.  There is an attitude among many tournament anglers that since they are in a tournament, their time on the water is more important.  I am a tournament angler as well, so don’t think I am lashing out at all tournament anglers. My point is, there are already a few “A–holes” ruining it for the rest of us and, while the racing addition to tournaments may eventually contribute to an increase in this number,  to blame it solely on a new format is short sighted.  The problem is the growing lack of concern for others that has been growing in this country for several years in every area not just fishing. Don’t get me wrong, I actually agree with most of what you said.  I just feel the need to point out that the problem has been here for awhile. Scott Coker                                                                 <))) Wanted: Old fishing tackle and lures <(((<

Standard Disclaimer:  The views expressed are my own.

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As of yet I will not remove that “TAG” from you Craig! But you are getting better…..hehehe! — ~~~~ “The RodMaker” (aka) “The Shadow”

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ROTFLMAO!!! Thanks Rip, your BTW was OK, but to this day, Rodmaker’s was the best!!! When he called me an Arrogant Pompous Ass, my wife, kids, and all my friends roared!!!  To this day, I am still known as “APA”.  Hell, I had it embroidered on my Tournament Shirts this year. I guess I can change it: “Full of Carp APA or FOCAPA”.  Ya, I like it! Ford Motor Company is known as FoMoCo, So why not FoCaPa.   Ooo, APAtiFOS – Arrogant Pompous Ass that is Full of Shit!  I like that one better. APAtiFOS. Damm Rip, besides giving me, my wife, kids, and all my friends a laugh, you might have given me a great a.k.a.  APAtiFOS — Craig Better Known As : APAtiFOS

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BTW Craig, you’re full of more crap than a Christmas turkey. Flame, no, truth, yes.  Rip

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Well stated Craig, this addition to tournaments does nothing for the sport of fishing. How many people will have to be maimed or killed before it is stopped and banned ! It is the folks on local lakes & rivers that will try this; and get someone hurt or killed! — ~~~~ “The RodMaker” (aka) “The Shadow”

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My objection to this format has never been about the safety of the event, at the event.  My objection is that some kid or group of kids are going to emulate this event in an uncontrolled setting.  Your lake or mine, and somebody is going to get seriously hurt or killed.  (it is already occurring) I also dislike the fact that the event is promoted as a means to help promote bass fishing.  That is a lie!  If anyone can logically explain to me how boat racing helps promote bass fishing I’ll shut up about this subject. Earl Bentz says this type of event helps the boat manufacturers to design better boats for fishing.  Then he introduced a new 20XP center console boat especially designed for this activity.  How does this boat help bass fishing.  You have a full blown racing boat with casting decks.  Handles great with one person, but because of it’s design is less safe with the traditional two people (tournament) normally aboard a bass fishing boat, because now the boat’s center of gravity is offset.  Nitro’s 911 is a much better center console design, but then again, it was designed with fishing in mind and not boat racing. If you think this is not having an effect on younger anglers, let me share this little story.  There is a kid (17 years old) that fishes my home lake. He has a 17 foot Javelin and his buddy has a 17 foot Stratos.   Thank God these boats only have 90 hp motors.  Here is two kids emulating the WCF format.  Only two days ago, they out running a course they developed using water skier buoys that they stole from the local ski club’s course.  Where did they setup this course, in the narrowest and one of the busiest sections of the lake.  I go to launch my boat and almost get the back of my boat ripped off as this kid and his buddy were cutting the corner of their homemade race track.  Being the stupid S.O.B. I am, I put myself and my boat into harms way and blocked them on their returning pass.  I yelled at them with little effect.  Here in each boat was two young men and two young ladies (8 people).  One girl was sitting in the back pedal seat on both boats.  How stupid can they be. . . But here they are . . . .  As I was pulling out, I noticed that they went right back at it.  So I called my buddy the local sheriff, and the parents of two young ladies (neighbor kids) I knew.  My buddy was already on the water and cruised in and arrested both the young men driving the boats, (I think they were charged for stealing the buoys and something like reckless endangerment).  The girls parents showed up as the boats were being loaded.  They thanked me and my buddy the sheriff.  An 1/8 of a mile away is a shallow bay that is huge and nobody fishes or using the area.  Flat, 3′ deep, no cover or structure, it just dead water (an old camp ground before the area was flooded).  I still would have been concerned about the neighbor’s girls being in the boats, but it would have been a lot safer.  No, they setup in the river near a launch and near a bridge that somebody coming under would be right in the middle of their turn on this course.  The kid in the Javelin is always talking about being a pro angler.  That is how he wants to make his living.  I assure you the WCF is what prompted this kid in setting up this course.  The kid is not happy with what happened, but he was man enough to come up to me today and apologize, and we even fished together for about an hour. Keep boat racing out of bass fishing events, or we are going to see more events like the one I broke up two days ago, and bass boats and anglers are going to develop the same bad reputation that PWCs have already. Everybody hates PWCs all because of a few A–holes.  Bass Anglers are going to be next if this keeps up, because it will be the young anglers creating the problems on the lakes. — Craig

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My objection to this format has never been about the safety of the event, at the event.  My objection is that some kid or group of kids are going to emulate this event in an uncontrolled setting.  Your lake or mine, and somebody is going to get seriously hurt or killed.  (it is already occurring) I also dislike the fact that the event is promoted as a means to help promote bass fishing.  That is a lie!  If anyone can logically explain to me how boat racing helps promote bass fishing I’ll shut up about this subject. Earl Bentz says this type of event helps the boat manufacturers to design better boats for fishing.  Then he introduced a new 20XP center console boat especially designed for this activity.  How does this boat help bass fishing.  You have a full blown racing boat with casting decks.  Handles great with one person, but because of it’s design is less safe with the traditional two people (tournament) normally aboard a bass fishing boat, because now the boat’s center of gravity is offset.  Nitro’s 911 is a much better center console design, but then again, it was designed with fishing in mind and not boat racing. If you think this is not having an effect on younger anglers, let me share this little story.  There is a kid (17 years old) that fishes my home lake. He has a 17 foot Javelin and his buddy has a 17 foot Stratos.   Thank God these boats only have 90 hp motors.  Here is two kids emulating the WCF format.  Only two days ago, they out running a course they developed using water skier buoys that they stole from the local ski club’s course.  Where did they setup this course, in the narrowest and one of the busiest sections of the lake.  I go to launch my boat and almost get the back of my boat ripped off as this kid and his buddy were cutting the corner of their homemade race track.  Being the stupid S.O.B. I am, I put myself and my boat into harms way and blocked them on their returning pass.  I yelled at them with little effect.  Here in each boat was two young men and two young ladies (8 people).  One girl was sitting in the back pedal seat on both boats.  How stupid can they be. . . But here they are . . . .  As I was pulling out, I noticed that they went right back at it.  So I called my buddy the local sheriff, and the parents of two young ladies (neighbor kids) I knew.  My buddy was already on the water and cruised in and arrested both the young men driving the boats, (I think they were charged for stealing the buoys and something like reckless endangerment).  The girls parents showed up as the boats were being loaded.  They thanked me and my buddy the sheriff.  An 1/8 of a mile away is a shallow bay that is huge and nobody fishes or using the area.  Flat, 3′ deep, no cover or structure, it just dead water (an old camp ground before the area was flooded).  I still would have been concerned about the neighbor’s girls being in the boats, but it would have been a lot safer.  No, they setup in the river near a launch and near a bridge that somebody coming under would be right in the middle of their turn on this course.  The kid in the Javelin is always talking about being a pro angler.  That is how he wants to make his living.  I assure you the WCF is what prompted this kid in setting up this course.  The kid is not happy with what happened, but he was man enough to come up to me today and apologize, and we even fished together for about an hour. Keep boat racing out of bass fishing events, or we are going to see more events like the one I broke up two days ago, and bass boats and anglers are going to develop the same bad reputation that PWCs have already.  Everybody hates PWCs all because of a few A–holes.  Bass Anglers are going to be next if this keeps up, because it will be the young anglers creating the problems on the lakes. — Craig

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My objection to this format has never been about the safety of the event, at the event.  My objection is that some kid or group of kids are going to emulate this event in an uncontrolled setting.

Anybody who doesn’t realize that alot of experience is needed before doing something like this is going to make a grave mistake. Whether it be boat racing, motocross, street luge, skateboarding, or whatever. I also dislike the fact that the event is promoted as a means to help promote bass fishing.  That is a lie!  If anyone can logically explain to me how boat racing helps promote bass fishing I’ll shut up about this

subject. Go see one and you will shut up. Believe me, I was skeptical. But then I saw how much fun those fellas were having. The pros there had nothing but good things to say about the format. Lastly, not everyone has what it takes to drive our highways. Boycott that first, and then go after “BASSCAR”. Earl Bentz says this type of event helps the boat manufacturers to design better boats for fishing.  Then he introduced a new 20XP center console boat especially designed for this activity.  How does this boat help bass fishing.  You have a full blown racing boat with casting decks.  Handles great with one person, but because of it’s design is less safe with the traditional two people (tournament) normally aboard a bass fishing boat, because now the boat’s center of gravity is offset.  Nitro’s 911 is a much better center console design, but then again, it was designed with fishing in mind and not boat racing.

Nothing like you mention was run today. Here’s a scenario for you. Take a man with some money to blow. He buys a boat and thinks he soooooo smart. Well he does all sorts of things to this boat and goes out thinking he’s going to be the envy of all people on the water. His experience is minimal and his idiot factor is high. Too bad, he’s going to endanger himself and many others in his personal quest to show off. But aint that America. Some learn the hard way and it’s thier God given right. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you think this is not having an effect on younger anglers, let me share this little story.  There is a kid (17 years old) that fishes my home lake. He has a 17 foot Javelin and his buddy has a 17 foot Stratos.   Thank God these boats only have 90 hp motors.  Here is two kids emulating the WCF format.  Only two days ago, they out running a course they developed using water skier buoys that they stole from the local ski club’s course. Where did they setup this course, in the narrowest and one of the busiest sections of the lake.  I go to launch my boat and almost get the back of my boat ripped off as this kid and his buddy were cutting the corner of their homemade race track.  Being the stupid S.O.B. I am, I put myself and my boat into harms way and blocked them on their returning pass.  I yelled at them with little effect.  Here in each boat was two young men and two young ladies (8 people).  One girl was sitting in the back pedal seat on both boats.  How stupid can they be. . . But here they are . . . .  As I was pulling out, I noticed that they went right back at it.  So I called my buddy the local sheriff, and the parents of two young ladies (neighbor kids) I knew.  My buddy was already on the water and cruised in and arrested both the young men driving the boats, (I think they were charged for stealing the buoys and something like reckless endangerment).  The girls parents showed up as the boats were being loaded.  They thanked me and my buddy the sheriff.  An 1/8 of a mile away is a shallow bay that is huge and nobody fishes or using the area.  Flat, 3′ deep, no cover or structure, it just dead water (an old camp ground before the area was flooded).  I still would have been concerned about the neighbor’s girls being in the boats, but it would have been a lot safer.  No, they setup in the river near a launch and near a bridge that somebody coming under would be right in the middle of their turn on this course.  The kid in the Javelin is always talking about being a pro angler.  That is how he wants to make his living.  I assure you the WCF is what prompted this kid in setting up this course.  The kid is not happy with what happened, but he was man enough to come up to me today and apologize, and we even fished together for about an hour.

Where are the parents when all this is going on? Kinda sounds like they suck. Kinda sounds like they got more money than they got common sense. But aint that America. It’s simple, they don’t call it the top because that’s where you start at. You don’t bite off more than you can chew. It’s the same with any sport. Keep boat racing out of bass fishing events, or we are going to see more events like the one I broke up two days ago, and bass boats and anglers are going to develop the same bad reputation that PWCs have already. Everybody hates PWCs all because of a few A–holes.  Bass Anglers are going to be next if this keeps up, because it will be the young anglers creating the problems on the lakes.

I realize that I cannot compete in this format. I do not have all the pieces of the puzzle required to achieve this. Why is it so wrong for those that have the pieces in place to do this? From what I saw, the pros were having fun. Do you want to take that away from them? Running that course looked like alot of fun. Like I said, go se one and you’ll shut up.  Rip

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I went to the WCF weigh in and race today at shirley Plantation on the James River today. I must say, it’s much different than depicted by many. The race is very tame, but in the same sense, exciting. Woo Daves spun out and was in no danger of losing his life. Althoigh he was running a 4 year old boat because his new boat isn’t ready and he borrowed his sons’. Alton Jones is dominating the fishing and Skeet Reese has been the most consistent in both and leads. As far as the racing goes, I can’t see where it was any more dangerous than what occours during a normal tournament. Lastly, all the pros involved siad that they loved the format and that it was very hard work to engage in this format. Short and sweet, sorry.  Rip

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Kids and Rusted Bolts – 1 two man bass fishing fishing boat

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I mumbled under my breath as I backed out the rusted lag bolt.two man bass fishing fishing boat “Who asked the little …”  A rust chip flaked off the trailer frame and dropped onto the lens of my safety glasses.  I grinned, I learned the value of those protective devices a month ago when the emergency room doctor explained them to me.two man bass fishing fishing boat  I snapped my head to the side to jar loose the little rust chip, it slid across the lens and encountered my nose. I distorted my mouth and blew up trying to dislodge the little chip.  I succeeded – the rust chip found its way under my safety glasses and into my eye.  ”Damn,”two man bass fishing fishing boat I exclaimed as I rolled over – well half over, I got stuck between the trailer frame above me and the concrete floor below. “Damn,” I mumbled again as I dropped my head to the concrete with a “thump.”  I let out a discouraged sigh, “Who asked the little …” As I twisted and tried to get a hand up to my face, I resigned myself to the fact that the gods were getting even again.  It was obvious the bass boat trailer god, whatever his name, was teaching me something I needed to know. two man bass fishing fishing boat  With a grunt or two and a few contortionist moves, I managed to roll back to my original face-up position.  I grinned an evil grin, I was free – the bass boat trailer god just got beat.  I reached over my head, grabbed the frame, and started to muscle myself from under the trailer.  Either I miscalculated or the bass boat trailer god suddenly lowered the trailer two man bass fishing fishing boat- I caught my safety glasses on the trailer frame, the safety glasses pushed down and crunched my nose, my nose reacted by issuing a wicked sneeze, the sneeze caused my head to jerk violently up and then violently back down.  The upward jerk was stopped by the trailer frame above, the back down was stopped by the concrete floor below.   After flushing out my eye, I returned to the garage.  My puppy dog looked up with a disinterested look, yawned, and went back to sleep.  I sat down on a stool and fired a cigarette.  After a couple of coughs, I looked over my shoulder at the beast, the Bassin’ Dreadnought.  I slowly shook my head and sighed. two man bass fishing fishing boat A week ago, the image was back, my bassin’ expert image.  I was the king of the lake, I was the Bass Man.  Then, thanks to some little kid, whatever his name, I was sitting there with a blood-shot eye, a pair of head bumps, and a “yukky” boat.   Somewhat disheartened with the state of the image, my bassin’ expert image, I started to ponder golf.  An image of a golf ball flying through the air came to mind.two man bass fishing fishing boat  The golf ball climbed way up high, reached it’s peak, and then returned to earth.  It landed in a pond of water.  The water transformed into a lake – Big Bear Lake – and my thoughts turned to last weekend, when I had it all going for me.  I had tricked the fishing gods.  I figured they would be waiting for me down in San Diego, probably at the Narrows on Lake Hodges, but I fooled them.  We left a little earlier than usual and used the early morning darkness to sneak off in the opposite direction, towards the mountains, towards the lake in the sky, towards Big Bear.  It was a perfect plan, Big Bear wasn’t a premier bass fishery, it was a noted trout lake.  The fishing gods would never look for me there. There are three highways to Big Bear from the southern slopes of the San Bernardino Mountains.  The first is a two lane highway with an acceptable grade; however, it is the long way around.  The second highway is a four lane highway with a medium grade.  It is much shorter than the first way, but offers about 20 more miles of mountain driving than the third way.  The third way is a two lane highway, but the grade is steep – too steep for a truck pulling a 3000 pound bass boat.  Plus, the curves are more suitable for a sport car with a suicidal driver.  We took the second highway, the four lane highway, the highway with the medium grade, the safe way, the sure way to Big Bear Lake. The god of bass boat towing trucks, whatever his name, was in a good mood on that Saturday morning.  The miles quickly disappeared as the elevation markers steadily climbed – 2000, 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, 7000 feet.  Before we knew it, we were at the top of the mountain range. With a little drop of 500 feet to the 6500 foot-level and a short 20 mile run of winding, but level, mountain road, and we would be at Big Bear.  The last place on earth the fishing gods would be looking for me. As we barreled along the last 20 miles of winding, but level, mountain road,two man bass fishing fishing boat I made a few scientific observations.  During the week, my fishing partner had purchased a couple of new coffee containers.  They were sealed insulated plastic glasses with built-in straws.  The part of the straw you put into your mouth was hinged.  When it was bent over and pressed into a recess in the top of the lid, it sealed the glass so it wouldn’t leak.  When the straw was pulled up and out of the recess, it aligned itself to a lower straw inside the glass.  In this position, you could safely suck out the contents of the glass without spilling a drop.  While driving up the mountain highway in the dark, I forgot about my sealed insulated plastic glass of coffee.  When the sun came up, the glass caught my eye.  I waited for a straight section of road and then picked it up.  With the tip of my tongue, I flipped the top part of the straw up and out of the recess in the top of the lid.  When the top part of the straw aligned itself with the lower straw inside the glass, the straw coughed, sputtered and blew a stream of hot coffee into my face. Without loosing control of my bass boat towing truck and going over the side, I quickly made a few scientific observations: 1) the atmospheric pressure is considerable less at 7000 feet than at 2000 feet, 2) a container sealed at an elevation of 2000 feet will be pressurized at 7000 feet, 3) smart people probably already know about 1 and 2. After making a quick stop (locked up all six wheels, both truck and trailer) to take care of the errant coffee, we set off again to finished the last ten miles to Big Bear Lake.  The miles quickly disappeared and before we knew it, the lake loomed into view.  About the same time the lake loomed into view, a fork in the road appeared.  With my fishing partner directing, “Right, right, go right,” I cranked the wheel and went left.  Within a few minutes, we were at the boat ramp.

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I looked both ways and then pulled out onto the highway.  My fishing partner was telling me about what a great day it had been.  I was thinking about the rusted bolts, rusted bolts sent to me by …  Damn, it finally came to me.  I was done in by the gods.  They had spent the whole day looking for me.  That was it.  When I didn’t show up in San Diego, they started looking for me all across Southern California.  They probably split up so they could quickly cover more ground.  That’s probably why I got caught by the …  by the… by the …  bass boat trailer god, whatever his name. “Right, right, go right,” directed my fishing partner.  I cranked the wheel and went left. There are three highways from Big Bear down the southern slopes of the San Bernardino Mountains.  The first is a two lane highway with an acceptable grade; however, it is the long way around.  The second highway is a four lane highway with a medium grade.  It is much shorter than the first way, but offers about 20 more miles of mountain driving than the third way.  The third way is a two lane highway, but the grade is steep – too steep for a truck pulling a 3000 pound bass boat.  Plus, the curves are more suitable for a sport car with a suicidal driver. For once in her life, my fishing partner way right.  I should have gone the other way, to the four lane highway, the highway with the medium grade, the safe way, the sure way down  from Big Bear Lake. I didn’t catch on right away that we were heading down the third highway, the highway with the too steep grade, the highway more suitable for a sport car with a suicidal driver.  I was deep in thought about my yukky boat, and the whereabouts of stainless steel lag bolts.  I could see another nation-wide search coming up for peculiar marine hardware. I had the touch-up paint, and I had the sandpaper.  I suppose I’d have to epoxy the holes before I put in the new lag bolts.  No biggie, I’ve done that one before. “Slow down,” said my fishing partner. “Right, right,” I replied.  Damn, where are the other two lanes?  Damn, I suddenly got a sinking feeling.  We crested a slight hill, a short straight away lay ahead.  I watched the speedometer: 10 – 15 – 20 -25 -30 – 35 – 40 – 45, curve coming – brakes: 40 -35 -30 – 25 -20, coast around the curve: 20 – 25 – 30.  The road wasn’t all that bad.  I recalled the caution in my bass book trailer book, “Too avoid overheating the brakes of your new bass boat trailer, do not downshift when going down a steep grade.”  I also flashed back to my high school driver’s education class, “Brake going into a curve, coast through it, and accelerate out the curve.”  Something from my high school physics class also tried to pop into my head, but the details were as fuzzy as the first time I encounter it, “Momentum has something to do with mass and velocity.” The next couple of curves were much like the first: 20 – 25 – 30 – 35 – 40 – 45, curve – brakes: 40 – 35 – 30 – 25 – 20, coast around the curve: 20 – 25 – 30.  A sports car passed us on a short straight away.  A yellow diamond appeared on the side of the road.  If I didn’t know better, I’d swear it was a symbol for a hair-pin turn – brakes: 40 – 35 – 30 -25 -20, coast around the curve: 20 – 25 – 30 – 35 – 40 – 45 – argh – 50.  Damn, that was a hair … brakes: 50 – 40 -30 – 20, coast: 20 – 30 – 40 – aarrgghh – brakes: 40 – 20, coast around the curve: aaarrrggghhh – 30 – aaarrrggghhh – 50, brakes: 50 – 20, coast: 30 – aaarrrggghhh – 50 – aaarrrggghhh.  Suddenly, we were looking at the grade, the steep grade, the grade that:  aaarrrggghhh – 60 – aaarrrggghhh – 70 – aaarrrggghhh – 30 – 50 – aaarrrggghhh.  A slight straight away and we blasted past the sports car with the suicidal driver – aaarrrggghhh – 70 – 50 -70 – 20 – 80 – AAARRRGGGHHH. Finally, the mountain roller coaster ended and the highway spit us out onto a level stretch of freeway.  I looked at my fishing partner, “What were you screaming about?  I had everything under control.” Slowly the color returned to my fishing partner’s cheeks, she pried her hands from the dashboard, “I wasn’t screaming,” she answered.  ”You were.”  She took a deep breath, made a funny face, “What’s that smell? It smells like burning rubber.” I sniffed and looked around.  I checked the rear view mirror, I saw the trail of smoke behind us, the smoke coming from the front brakes, the smoke coming from the front brakes of my bass boat towing truck. Suddenly, I remembered the caution in the bass boat towing truck book, “To avoid overheating the brakes of your new bass boat towing truck, down shift into a lower gear when going down a steep grade.”  I wasn’t sure about the seemingly contradictory instructions between the trailer book and the truck book, I had a feeling it really all had to do with that stuff from physics – momentum has something to do with mass and velocity, velocity squared,  and the nasty part was the squared part. And i it wasn’t that, then it was the bass boat trailer god, whatever his name. My puppy dog woofed at an invisible something, slowly got up and woofed again.  He stretched forward and then backwards, then he wandered over to the yukky bass boat trailer.  He sniffed the tire the way only puppy dogs do.  ”Don’t you dare,” I warned in a low threatening tone.  My puppy dog looked up at me, yawned and then went back to bed. I looked over at the Bassin’ Dreadnought, I looked back and down at the pile of stainless steel lag bolts.  I divided them into groups of five and counted – 19.  Damn, that meant I’d only done three.  I looked at the clock on the wall.  Damn, it had taken me an hour and a half to do three bolts.  I thought back to grade school, looking for an arithmetic rule to figure out how much longer it was going to take me to clean up after the bass boat trailer god.  It seemed too complicated and not all that important.  No matter how long it was going to take, I had to replace all the yukky rusted bolts.  I grabbed my socketed ratchet and safety glasses.  I stood up and faced the beast.  I had to get this job done, the bass boat towing truck would be back from the shop by Wednesday with new brake pads, rotors, wheel bearings and seals.  Come next weekend, some ugly sucker was going to redeem the image, my bassin’ expert image.  An evil little grin came to my lips, my eyes shifted from side-to-side.  I bet the fishing gods will be waiting for me at Bear Big.  I laugh aloud and slid under the bass boat trailer – go Bass Man, go :) Copyright 1997 Sir Rogue

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The first thing I noticed at the ramp was the lack of bass boat trailers.  I narrowed my eyes and scanned the lake.  There was a large number of pleasure boats and rental aluminum boats.  They were all anchored, they were all still fishing, they were all fishing for trout, they were leaving all the bass for me.  A big grin twisted the corners of my mouth – it was time to look good, time for the image, time for my bassin’ expert image.   After paying the lake use fees and paying tribute to the nearest porta-potty, we put the Bassin’ Dreadnought into the water.  At first it coughed and sputtered, but after a minute of two, it acquired a smooth idle.  With my fishing partner in the fishing partner seat, I swung the beast around and idled out towards the 5 mph buoys.  Off to the right, a fisherman on a dock yelled something.  I put my hand to my ear to signal I didn’t catch what he said.  He cupped his hands to his mouth and yelled again.  I still didn’t catch it, so I tipped my hat to him .  I turned to my fishing partner, “Did you catch what he said?” “He said you ran over and cut all their fishing lines,” she replied. When we reached the buoy-line, I made a few more scientific observations.  As the bow of the Bassin’ Dreadnought crossed that magic line, I throttled up.  The beast moaned and the bow came up and out of the water.  I waited for the rest of that pulse-increasingly scenario to unfold – I waited for that sudden roar – I waited for the beast to jump out of the water – I waited for the beast to climb on plane – I waited for that sling-shot fling across the lake.  I waited, but it didn’t happen.  The beast just moaned and plowed along with the bow sticking up at a 45 degree angle.  I throttled down.  Without loosing control of myself and jumping over the side, I quickly made a few more scientific observations: 1) the atmospheric pressure is considerable less at 7000 feet than at 2000 feet, 2) less atmospheric pressure means less available oxygen, 3) less available oxygen means a 200 hp motor runs like a 100 hp motor, 4) smart people probably already know about 1, 2 and 3. As I hit the trim tab and tuck the prop under the boat, the thought of the beast tucking it’s tail crossed my mind.  I throttled up; the Bassin’ Dreadnought moaned, the bow came up; the Bassin’ Dreadnought groaned, the stern came up; the beast came alive and that old familiar roar returned.  The beast blasted across the lake as only an overpowered bass boat can do.  Heads turned as we roared by, the image was back, my bassin’ expert image. The morning bite was long gone before we ever tossed our first lure. However, it didn’t matter – the lake was beautiful, the weather was beautiful, the surrounding hills with quaint cottages and fancy estates were beautiful.  We passed the morning fishing the bays, throwing spinner baits under and along the numerous docks that led up to the quaint cottages and fancy estates.  On one of the docks, a bleary eyed man stood on the end of the dock and stared at a red and white plastic bobber.  He was casually dressed in a white tee shirt and a pair of pink boxer shorts.   His face was darkened by a couple of day’s growth, his hair was unkempt.  As I trolled by, I nodded at the bobber and asked, “Breakfast?” The man looked up, replied, “I hope,” and went back to staring at the bobber. I tossed a spinner bait under the next dock.  As I began a reel – pause – reel retrieve, I looked back at the man staring at the bobber.  Damn, if that was a troutin’ expert image, I’d stay with my bassin’ expert image no matter how tarnished it got. With the mid-day sun overhead and the bass taking their daily siestas, we found a local marina and loaded up on some good old American junk food.  As we munched on potato chips, beef jerky and candy bars, we puttered around the lake and took in the sights.  Along the way, we came across a capsized catamaran.  Remembering something in the boating rule book about offering assistance to vessels in distress, we helped the crew right the boat.  With the sail boat heading for shore, a place for the crew to regain their wits, we turned the Bassin’ Dreadnought towards the dam.  As we blasted along, it suddenly occurred to me I didn’t help the catamaran crew because of the boating rule book.  I did it because it was good for the image, my bassin’ expert image. The dam at Big Bear Lake is noted for its rocks, big rocks.  These rocks, some reaching 20 feet above the water, line the shore and form rocky islands just off the shore.  The rocky islands are also part of the local right of passage for the young boys in the area.  They swim out to the highest  rock, climb to the top, and jump off.  When the Bassin’ Dreadnought pulled into the dam area, the gang of boys on top of the rock stopped their typical banter and took note.  I dropped the trolling motor, plopped down in my seat, picked up a rig, and tossed a spinner bait to the nearest rock.  The spinner bait flashed in the bright sunlight as it glided through the air and came to rest an inch from rock.  As the spinner bait settled into the water with a slight plop, one of the boys from on high called out, “Look, look, it’s the Bass Man.” Bass Man.  I liked the sound of that.  It had a ring to it.  It went well with the image, my bassin’ expert image.  I moved the Bassin’ Dreadnought into a channel between the rocks.  The Bass Man was on, the image, my bassin’ expert image was on, I was looking good.  My baitcaster smoothly sang as I tossed a spinner bait here and a spinner bait there.  When I rounded a rock in the channel, another boat, a pleasure boat, a pleasure boat with a couple of couples of sixtyish preppies in whites duds and white boat shoes, came into view.  I ignored them and did my Bass Man thing, I tossed a spinner bait here and a spinner bait there.  The people in the other boat came to the conclusion we were on a collision course, which we were.  However, the Bass Man in me had to toss one more spinner bait before doing something about it. “Were going to hit them,” someone said. “He’s not looking, he doesn’t see us,” said somebody else. “Grab the pole,” ordered another. “Who’s got the right away?” ask somebody who might have been one of the first three, or might have been the fourth. When my spinner bait broke the surface of the water, I frowned – I didn’t get a hit.  My foot found the foot control, the throttle switch clicked.  The Bassin’ Dreadnought pulled forward and slipped around the rock and out of harm’s way.  The foursome in the other boat sighed and dropped to their seats.   As the Bassin’ Dreadnought disappeared around the corner, one of the boys from on high called out, “Go Bass Man,  Go Bass Man.”   I tossed another spinner bait, I was the Bass Man, I had the image, my bassin’ expert image.  I was looking good. As I maneuvered to the next rock, a conversation from around the bend carried on the wind, “I’ve got the faster boat on theis lake.  Nobody can beat me.”  I tossed a spinner bait into a crack in the rock, the boat with the conversation came into view.  It was a blue and white speed boat.  An animated  bronze beach boy was doing his bad talk to a trio of bikinied beach bunnies.  As the Bassin’ Dreadnought loomed into view, the bad talk quieted for a moment.  Then as if replying to an unheard question, the beach boy continued, “No, not as fast as that. That’s a bass boat.”  Another spinner bait sailed through the air.  ”No that’s  just for going slow, it pulls up out of the water when the big motor is being used.  Wish I had that motor on this boat.  Bass boats are interesting, they fly across the lake from fishing hole to fishing hole, then they go real slow with the little motor.  If I had that 200 hp motor on this boat, then I’d have the fastest boat around.”  The image was back, my bassin’ expert image, I was looking good.  Go, Bass Man, go.

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The shadows from the peaks in the western sky were stretching long across the lake, it was time to call it quits.  I fired up the big motor and pointed the Bassin’ Dreadnought toward the 5 mph buoys.  ”Nice boat,” came a cry from behind.  I tipped my hat in reply, I throttled up, the beast moaned, the beast groaned, the beast bounced out of the water.  As we blasted back to the launch ramp, the pictures and sounds of the day flashed into my head.  Fishing-wise, the day wasn’t all that good.  All I managed to do was boat a dink, but then again, it was a small mouth bass – my first smallie.  On the other hand, it was a great day for the image, my bassin’ expert image.  I had the biggest and baddest boat on the lake, I was looking good, I had fooled the fishing gods, I had beat them.  I was the Bass Man. There is an old saying that goes something like, “You can fool all of the gods some of the time, and you can fool some of the gods all of the time, but you can’t fool all of them all of the time.”  Enter the bass boat trailer god. The Bassin’ Dreadnought was resting on the trailer, she had done herself proud today, she had laid claimed to the biggest and baddest boat on the lake image and proved it.  About twenty yards behind her, stood the porta-potty.  It rocked and creaked as only a porta-potty could, then its door swung open, and a kid about four stepped out.  He reached down and grabbed the elastic band of his faded blue shorts and pulled them up.  Then he reached behind his back and tugged his shorts down a little bit.  As he walked along, he stared at the ground while still adjusting the fit of his shorts. I tightened the hold-down straps while I watched the kid approach.  The way I figured it, he was so preoccupied with adjusting his shorts, he was going to walk face-first smack into the beast.  ”Whoa,” exclaimed the kid as he dug his heels into the asphalt.  His eyes grew big as he took in the battleship gray and maroon beast before him.  ”That’s a big boat, Mister,” he said as he walked to the back of the Bassin’ Dreadnought.  ”What kinda boat is it?” “It’s a bass boat,” I said as raised the motor so I could install the motor toter. “Is it a fishing boat?” “Yes, a bass fishing boat.” “My dad’s got a fishin’ boat.  It’s an luminna boat,  over there,” the kid said pointing in a general non-descript direction.  ”How fast does your boat go, Mister?  Can it go fast like an airplane?” “Yes,” I replied aloud and then added under my breath, “As long as the plane is only taxiing.” The kid put his hands on his hips and surveyed my boat, “Fast and pretty boat.”  Something caught the kid’s attention and he made his way to the front of the boat.  ”That a gun or something?  Like a harpoon gun or something?” “Nope.” “A tronic ray gun or something?” “Just a trolling motor to go slow and sneak up on bass,” I replied realizing that we were about to play a game of twenty questions. “Hmmm, a motta,” confirmed the kid as he turned and made his way to the back of the boat.  ”Big motta,” he announced as he looked up at the 200 hp outboard.  Showing a little excitement, he continued, “Fast and pretty boat with a big motta and a little motta.”  After examining everything that was easy to see, the kid did what only kids would do. He dropped to a swatting position to look under the boat.  ”What’s that?” he asked as he rocked forward onto his hands for a better look. “Yuk.” For some reason, “Yuk” caught my attention, soI made my way over to the kid.  ”What’s yuk?” I asked. “Right there,” answered the kid in a disapproving tone. It was becoming obvious that I would have to get down on my hands and knees if I wanted a definitive answer to my question.  With a sigh of reluctance, I shook his head and dropped down.  ”Okay, what’s the problem?” The kid’s little finger pointed.  ”Yuk,” he said. Damn – rust.  Damn – yuk.  I twisted my head for a better look.  ”Out of the way, kid,” I said as I looked up at the rusted lag bolts securing the gray carpeted bunks to my shiny maroon bass boat trailer.  ”Yuk,” I agreed. “Look at this, Mister,” called the kid from other side of the boat. “More yuk, big yuk.” Damn – more yuk, big yuk.  I quickly made my way to the other side of the boat.  Damn – big rust.  Damn – big yuk.  Not only was the pair of lag bolts rusted, but the bracket was rusted also.  For that matter, the paint was blistered and it had … it had … it had yuk, big yuk.  I looked forward for a quick check of the other bolts.  Damn, they all had yuk -they all had big yuk. “You got a yukky boat, Mister,” said the kid as he sauntered off.  ”My dad’s luminna boat doesn’t have yuk.” Damn – a yukky boat.

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In Article Re: Kids and Rusted Bolts – 4 , Stan Graber Richard, I just want you to know what an *Honor* it is to know someone of your *Integrity*….and, and…*Thoughtful Compassion* and, well…(sniff, sniff), I can hardly go on. Most of us would just say, “Heck with it, I’m goin’ fishin’” or something similar without the *Consideration* you’re showing here for your Fellow Man and your Employer, who probably has no knowledge of or appreciation for your sacrifice. I’m proud to know you, Sir! (salute, salute) Stan G.

I sure am glad this reply was directed at the *other* Richard, and not at me.  I might have been tempted to sprain my elbow, patting myself on the back.  d8-] Richard C.

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In Article Re: Kids and Rusted Bolts – 4 , Sir Rogue Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones. That’s your age and the weather. There’s probably a little truth to that.  Today, it must have hit 90 by noon and I pooped out by 2:00.  That bad part of it was we didn’t get to the lake until 10:00 – we were going to do the evening bite – ya, right.

Only 90 at noon?  We call that a ‘cool spell’ for August in Oklahoma. But my luck is about to change, I can feel it. It’s all that humility your learning that does it. I thought my luck had changed until Stan burst my bubble.  Today went quite well by my standards – no disasters, the boat cam home in one piece, the trailer came home in one piece, the truck came home in one piece.  I didn’t catch anything today, but that happens.  Then it dawned on me, the fishing weather god did me in – melted me like a popsicle – sent me home early with my tail tucked.  And then the water was stained and down, I couldn’t even figure out what to throw.  I was done in by the fishing water god.  This is getting discouraging – we got to many damn gods (damn, can I say that :)

Poor baby!  The temperature hits 90 and the water isn’t gin clear.  In Oklahoma, if you can see more than a foot into the water, it’s a swimming pool, and if it’s more than 20′ deep, it’s a well.  d8-] Now, don’t get me wrong, but any fishing trip done while on sick leave is guaranteed to be a bummer.  Trust me, I’ve tried it.  TOTGA hates slackers. I wish I had gotten this one a little earlier :) Of course, as we all know, the *worst* day of fishing is better than the *best* day of work. Let me think about that one a little longer.  Some of my worst days of fishing are pretty damn bad :)

Well, I don’t think that saying takes into account breakdowns of all that high-tech gear you use to support your ‘bassin’ expert image’.  It’s more of a saying for us low-tech bank angler types.  To me, a disaster is getting snagged and breaking off a $3.00 lure.  d8-] Good Luck and Good Fishing! Richard C.

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S – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones. But my luck is about to change, I can feel it. It’s all that humility your learning that does it. I thought my luck had change until Stan burst my bubble.  Today went quite well by my standards – no diasters, the boat cam home in one piece, the trailer came home in one piece, the truck came home in one piece.  I didn’t catch anything today, but that happens.  Then it dawned on me, the fishing weather god did me in – melted me like a popsicle – sent me home early with my tail tucked.  And then the water was stained and down, I couldn’t even figure out what to throw.  I was done in by the fishing water god.  This is getting discouraging – we got to many damn gods (damn, can I say that :) snipped Richard

Richard, IT IS YOUR FAULT!!! I think I will send you the bill for the new thrust bearing in the jet.  Why didn’t you keep TOTGA and his minions with you.  Go Salmon fishing to HalfMoon Bay.  Is a red tide, the fishing is SLOW, not one salmon bite, only a couple small rock fish and the only Ling Cod is an 8″ long throwback.  Some one has siphoned gas and I run out as I enter the harbor, come the rest of the way with the kicker. Odd sounding noise from the back of boat.  While flushing, hear large bearing noise.  Pull the bearing and it’s shot.  UPS is on strike.  Your luck has to get better as I have got TOTGA on my case now.  d:( Regards, Bill     — Opinions expressed are mine not necessarily my employers.   All other standard disclaimers apply! Remove nospam. To email reply.

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In Article Re: Kids and Rusted Bolts – 4 , Bill McKee Richard, IT IS YOUR FAULT!!! I think I will send you the bill for the new thrust bearing in the jet.  Why didn’t you keep TOTGA and his minions with you.

Now, Bill.  I only mentioned TOTGA, who is the god of the fish.  He doesn’t mess with boats, trailers, trucks, electronics, or any of that other junk.  It is he, and no others, that I pay homage to. It was the other Richard, Stan Graber, and the rest of you guys who started making up all these other demi-gods, demons, and gremlins to explain the failures of your complex and overblown ‘bassin’ expert images’. You visit these problems upon yourselves and then blame me, sitting there on my plastic bucket, on the bank, waiting for a bite, watching all you ‘bassin’ experts’ go by in your $10,000 ‘biggest, baddest bass boats on the lake’. Well, let me tell you.  I have very few mechanical failures with my plastic bucket and my minnow bucket.  Of course, I don’t get to go to all the neat places on the lake where the ‘big ugly suckers’ hang out, but that’s the life of the lowly bank-angler. You don’t actually believe that I would put a curse on all you high-tech anglers that keep buzzin’ by in your boats and washing my minnow bucket up on the bank, do you?  d8-] Go Salmon fishing to HalfMoon Bay.

I should get so lucky.  To me, salmon is something that comes in a can, like tuna only more expensive. Is a red tide, the fishing is SLOW, not one salmon bite, only a couple small rock fish and the only Ling Cod is an 8″ long throwback.

I ate some ling, once, in Brownsville, TX.  It was very tasty. Some one has siphoned gas and I run out as I enter the harbor, come the rest of the way with the kicker.

They used their Oklahoma credit card on you, did they?  d8-] Odd sounding noise from the back of boat.  While flushing, hear large bearing noise.  Pull the bearing and it’s shot.  UPS is on strike.

Just keep telling me these boating horror stories.  It makes me fell less depressed that I don’t own a boat.  One of these days, in a couple of years, I’ll join you guys in the boat-angler fraternity.  Then *I* will get to pay $20 a gallon for 2-stroke oil, paddle my dead boat back to the ramp, and wash minnow buckets up on shore with my wake.  d8-] Your luck has to get better as I have got TOTGA on my case now.  d:( Regards, Bill

Don’t feel lonely.  I didn’t catch anything last weekend either.  I just didn’t have the boat blues to throw in on top of it. Good Luck and Good Fishing (next weekend)! Richard

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Richard, I just want you to know what an *Honor* it is to know someone of your *Integrity*….and, and…*Thoughtful Compassion* and, well…(sniff, sniff), I can hardly go on. Most of us would just say, “Heck with it, I’m goin’ fishin’” or something similar without the *Consideration* you’re showing here for your Fellow Man and your Employer, who probably has no knowledge of or appreciation for your sacrifice. I’m proud to know you, Sir! (salute, salute) Stan G. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Stan, Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones.  I’ve had runs of bad luck before, and they don’t last long – well, most of them don’t –  okay, I once had a three year run of bad luck, but it only happened once.  This bassin’ bad luck thing has only been going on for a couple of months – well, a few months – okay, it’s been bad for about six – okay, nine months.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I had a couple of good trips during this period – well, they weren’t bad trips – okay, they weren’t total disasters.  But my luck is about to change, I can feel it. Come to think of it, it might change tomorrow.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m not that kind of person.  It’s just that I have to go to the dentist for a check-up at 9:30 tomorrow, and by the time I get out of the there, it will probably be too late to go to work.  Plus, I might be in great pain or something like that when I get out of there, you can never tell what’s going to happen at the dentist.  I mean, the dentist might discover a brain tumor busting out of an impacted root canal or something like that.  I wouldn’t want to go to work in great pain or under great stress and do something stupid and hurt the company’s image or something like that.  So, I’ve been thinking about being big about all of this and not going to work, and I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m just not that type. Come to think of it, the thought of the dentist has me stressed out.  I really should to something after the dentist to settle me down.  If I’m lucky, and I get out early enough from the dentist, I just might be able to make the evening bite over at Lake Perris.  If I’m not too stressed out to drive, I mean.  If I do go, I really should go over a little earlier than that because I need to check the truck out and make sure the brakes will stop the truck and the boat.  I worry about the truck when it comes out of the shop.   They might have forgot something and the truck might break down on the way to San Diego this weekend or something like that.  Plus, I need to check out the bunks on the bass boat trailer.  I replaced all the rusted bolts last weekend and maybe they really aren’t stainless steel and they might rust and some kid might …  What if the bolts aren’t tight and the bunks fall off and some jetski runs over them or something like that.  And what if the touch-up paint peels right off the trailer or something like that.  I REALLY need to check this stuff out before I sneak off to San Diego on Saturday and TAKE on the gods AGAIN.  I don’t have TIME to go to the dentist tomorrow.  Can’t you see I’m CRACKING from all the PRESSURE I’M UNDER.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Okay, I’m all right again.  But then again, I might be minutes, maybe seconds, away from a heart ATTACK or SOMETHING like that.  I NEED an ESCAPE, to get away for a day, I NEED TO FISH.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Yea.  Yea, good idea.  Okay, okay, I can do it, I’m UP TO IT.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something that – I’m just trying to stay alive – or something like that :) Richard

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Richard, Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones. That’s your age and the weather.

There’s probably a little truth to that.  Today, it must have hit 90 by noon and I pooped out by 2:00.  That bad part of it was we didn’t get to the lake until 10:00 – we were going to do the evening bite – ya, right. But my luck is about to change, I can feel it. It’s all that humility your learning that does it.

I thought my luck had change until Stan burst my bubble.  Today went quite well by my standards – no diasters, the boat cam home in one piece, the trailer came home in one piece, the truck came home in one piece.  I didn’t catch anything today, but that happens.  Then it dawned on me, the fishing weather god did me in – melted me like a popsicle – sent me home early with my tail tucked.  And then the water was stained and down, I couldn’t even figure out what to throw.  I was done in by the fishing water god.  This is getting discouraging – we got to many damn gods (damn, can I say that :) Now, don’t get me wrong, but any fishing trip done while on sick leave is guaranteed to be a bummer.  Trust me, I’ve tried it.  TOTGA hates slackers.

I wish I had gotten this one a little earlier :) Of course, as we all know, the *worst* day of fishing is better than the *best* day of work.

Let me think about that one a little longer.  Some of my worst days of fishing are pretty damn bad :) Richard

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Stan, Richard, I just want you to know what an *Honor* it is to know someone of your *Integrity*….and, and…*Thoughtful Compassion* and, well…(sniff, sniff), I can hardly go on. Most of us would just say, “Heck with it, I’m goin’ fishin’” or something similar without the *Consideration* you’re showing here for your Fellow Man and your Employer, who probably has no knowledge of or appreciation for your sacrifice. I’m proud to know you, Sir!

Ya, I know it :)  All-in-all, it worked out much better than I was expecting.  I slept in for an extra hour or so and then got up and went to the dentist.  As I drove down there, my conscious began to bother me (probably some god I don’t even know about was haunting me).  It was somewhat obvious I wasn’t going to work, I wasn’t dressed for it – I didn’t have on a tie.  But then again, I don’t wear ties to work unless a customer is in town.  Plus, we go casual on Friday.  But I’m not sure shorts and a tee shirt and lucky fishing shoes fit the work definition of casual.  I decided to wait and see what happened at the dentist before I decided to go to work or not. The dentist was a breeze; he looked into my mouth, said everything looked good, and told me to start flossing – I was in the chair for less than two minutes.  However, the anxiety of a visit to the dentist had already done the damage.  When I stepped out of THE ROOM, I held my hand out and asked the receptionist, “What do you see?” “Ah, your hand?” “Can you see it shaking?” “Ah, no.  It looks rock steady to me.” “Thanks,” I said as I left.  It was worse than I thought, my hand was shaking so fast you couldn’t even see it.  I figure it was vibrating about 138 cycles per second – too fast for the human eye.  I didn’t go to work, I went back home. I sat around for a few hours, drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes, steadying my nerves.  I figured I needed for them to settle down to the point where I could at least see them shake.  It also ocurred to me that if I waited until 1:15, just after the lunch hour, it would be to late to go into work. When 1:15 came, I called the secretary – she’s the real challenge.  She has a way of knowing when you’re pulling one.  She also has a way of making you feel like you’re pulling one – letting the whole team down – not pulling your weight.   “Hello,” she answered “Hello, Margie.  It’s me.” “Well hello there.  How did the dentist go?” “Don’t ask.” “Sorry ’bout that.” “I don’t think I’ll be making it in.” “Well, I would hope not.” “Huh?” “We know you’re dedicated, but nobody takes vacation and comes in.” “Huh?” “You’re on vacation today.  Remember?” “Huh?” “The last time you went to the dentist, you told me to put you down for vacation on your next appointment.  So, I did.  It’s right here in my little book.” “I know that.” “Bye,” she offered in a tone that was designed to say, “You did not.” “Ya, bye.” I hung up the phone.  Damn, I had wasted a half a day of vacation waiting to …  I was out the door in five minutes and on the lake within the hour.  Fishing wasn’t great – one small dink – but, the nerves were back in check :) Richard

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I looked both ways and then pulled out onto the highway.  My fishing partner was telling me about what a great day it had been.  I was thinking about the rusted bolts, rusted bolts sent to me by …  Damn, it finally came to me.  I was done in by the gods.  They had spent the whole day looking for me.  That was it.  When I didn’t show up in San Diego, they started looking for me all across Southern California.

<snip I loved it Richard!  Thanks for another great story.  You’ve got a real gift.  Too bad you keep getting on the wrong side of the Bass gods! ;-) Stan G.

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Stan, I loved it Richard!  Thanks for another great story.  You’ve got a real gift.  Too bad you keep getting on the wrong side of the Bass gods! ;-)

Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones.  I’ve had runs of bad luck before, and they don’t last long – well, most of them don’t –  okay, I once had a three year run of bad luck, but it only happened once.  This bassin’ bad luck thing has only been going on for a couple of months – well, a few months – okay, it’s been bad for about six – okay, nine months.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I had a couple of good trips during this period – well, they weren’t bad trips – okay, they weren’t total disasters.  But my luck is about to change, I can feel it. Come to think of it, it might change tomorrow.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m not that kind of person.  It’s just that I have to go to the dentist for a check-up at 9:30 tomorrow, and by the time I get out of the there, it will probably be too late to go to work.  Plus, I might be in great pain or something like that when I get out of there, you can never tell what’s going to happen at the dentist.  I mean, the dentist might discover a brain tumor busting out of an impacted root canal or something like that.  I wouldn’t want to go to work in great pain or under great stress and do something stupid and hurt the company’s image or something like that.  So, I’ve been thinking about being big about all of this and not going to work, and I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m just not that type. Come to think of it, the thought of the dentist has me stressed out.  I really should to something after the dentist to settle me down.  If I’m lucky, and I get out early enough from the dentist, I just might be able to make the evening bite over at Lake Perris.  If I’m not too stressed out to drive, I mean.  If I do go, I really should go over a little earlier than that because I need to check the truck out and make sure the brakes will stop the truck and the boat.  I worry about the truck when it comes out of the shop.   They might have forgot something and the truck might break down on the way to San Diego this weekend or something like that.  Plus, I need to check out the bunks on the bass boat trailer.  I replaced all the rusted bolts last weekend and maybe they really aren’t stainless steel and they might rust and some kid might …  What if the bolts aren’t tight and the bunks fall off and some jetski runs over them or something like that.  And what if the touch-up paint peels right off the trailer or something like that.  I REALLY need to check this stuff out before I sneak off to San Diego on Saturday and TAKE on the gods AGAIN.  I don’t have TIME to go to the dentist tomorrow.  Can’t you see I’m CRACKING from all the PRESSURE I’M UNDER.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Okay, I’m all right again.  But then again, I might be minutes, maybe seconds, away from a heart ATTACK or SOMETHING like that.  I NEED an ESCAPE, to get away for a day, I NEED TO FISH.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Yea.  Yea, good idea.  Okay, okay, I can do it, I’m UP TO IT.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something that – I’m just trying to stay alive – or something like that :) Richard

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In Article Re: Kids and Rusted Bolts – 4 , Sir Rogue Stan, I loved it Richard!  Thanks for another great story.  You’ve got a real gift.  Too bad you keep getting on the wrong side of the Bass gods!

;-) Glad you liked it, and not to worry, my luck is about to change – I can feel it in my bones.

That’s your age and the weather. I’ve had runs of bad luck before, and they don’t last long – well, most of them don’t –  okay, I once had a three year run of bad luck, but it only happened once.  This bassin’ bad luck thing has only been going on for a couple of months – well, a few months – okay, it’s been bad for about six – okay, nine months.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I had a couple of good trips during this period – well, they weren’t bad trips – okay, they weren’t total disasters.  But my luck is about to change, I can feel it.

It’s all that humility your learning that does it. Come to think of it, it might change tomorrow.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m not that kind of person.  It’s just that I have to go to the dentist for a check-up at 9:30 tomorrow, and by the time I get out of the there, it will probably be too late to go to work.  Plus, I might be in great pain or something like that when I get out of there, you can never tell what’s going to happen at the dentist.  I mean, the dentist might discover a brain tumor busting out of an impacted root canal or something like that.  I wouldn’t want to go to work in great pain or under great stress and do something stupid and hurt the company’s image or something like that.  So, I’ve been thinking about being big about all of this and not going to work, and I’m not playing hookey from work or something like that – I’m just not that type.

Now, don’t get me wrong, but any fishing trip done while on sick leave is guaranteed to be a bummer.  Trust me, I’ve tried it.  TOTGA hates slackers. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Come to think of it, the thought of the dentist has me stressed out.  I really should to something after the dentist to settle me down.  If I’m lucky, and I get out early enough from the dentist, I just might be able to make the evening bite over at Lake Perris.  If I’m not too stressed out to drive, I mean.  If I do go, I really should go over a little earlier than that because I need to check the truck out and make sure the brakes will stop the truck and the boat.  I worry about the truck when it comes out of the shop.   They might have forgot something and the truck might break down on the way to San Diego this weekend or something like that.  Plus, I need to check out the bunks on the bass boat trailer.  I replaced all the rusted bolts last weekend and maybe they really aren’t stainless steel and they might rust and some kid might …  What if the bolts aren’t tight and the bunks fall off and some jetski runs over them or something like that.  And what if the touch-up paint peels right off the trailer or something like that.  I REALLY need to check this stuff out before I sneak off to San Diego on Saturday and TAKE on the gods AGAIN.  I don’t have TIME to go to the dentist tomorrow.  Can’t you see I’m CRACKING from all the PRESSURE I’M UNDER.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Okay, I’m all right again.  But then again, I might be minutes, maybe seconds, away from a heart ATTACK or SOMETHING like that.  I NEED an ESCAPE, to get away for a day, I NEED TO FISH.  (deep breath, deep breath)  Yea.  Yea, good idea.  Okay, okay, I can do it, I’m UP TO IT.  Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not playing hookey from work or something that – I’m just trying to stay alive – or something like that :)

Sounds good to me.  Just don’t expect to catch much.  Oh yeah, and chill out a little.  The fish can sense when you’re uptight.  Fishing is supposed to be a tranquil sport.  You know, communing with nature, that kind of thing.  You don’t need to get all pumped up. Of course, as we all know, the *worst* day of fishing is better than the *best* day of work. Richard

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I agree 100% that Lowrance or Eagle is the way to go, however the flat rate of $90.00 on all repairs is not always a good thing.  I have an Eagle Ultra III which is about 1 1/2 years old (1 year warranty).  I noticed fog forming on the inside a couple of cold mornings this fall.  I called to find out how much it would cost to get it fixed (nitrogen and seal) or if there were any local repair shops that can do this.  They said I would have to pay the $90.00 flat rate to get the unit repaired.  That seems a little steep for a repair that will take 15 minutes.  That is nearly 1/3 the price I payed for the new unit!! Jay

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Gadge Guy,   I am buying my first bass fishing boat and want to add a sonar unit. I   am interested in getting the best unit I can. Does anyone have   experience with units from Lowrance, Eagle, Humminbird, etc.? I   understand that there are big differences in their displays when viewed   in direct sunlight or through polarized glasses. Are any of them   actually better at “finding fish”? Any help will be greatly   appreciated! I just finished doing through the same thing.  My first boat came with a mid-cost Humminbird unit .  I found the unit to be quite satisfactory and did a good job.  However, I’m getting my new boat next week and it will have all Lowrance units on it.  I’ve checked all the Humminbird, Eagle and Humminbird units out quite carefully and have communicated with both companies.  Plus, we had some good discussions about the units around here.   First of all, Lowrance and Eagle are basically the same unit.  Lowrance units are generally sold and installed by boat dealers, Eagle units are sold over-the-shelf for do-it yourselfers.   Here is some of the information I found out about Lowrance vs Humminbird. Technically, the Lowrance units appear to be superior units.  First of all,  they have a mode that is somewhere between raw sonar data and fully processed data (fish symbols).  On the Humminbird units, it is raw data (too complicated) or fully processed (not reliable).  The displays on the Lowrance units have more pixels and better backlighting; however, the new Humminbird line appears to be closing this gap.  The Lowrance units are more complicated to use – too many buttons (an ideal unit would have an on button and the unit would show you precisely what you want to see).  The Humminbird unit has five buttons and is fairly simple to use.  I really like the way the Humminbird units are mounted – no exposed cables and the units snap in and out.  The Lowrance units have exposed cables and the mounts on their larger units are a disappointment (I had to resort to having a special bracket made for the GPS-2000 Mapper).  The Johnnie Ray mounts on the smaller units are close to the Humminbird approach.  As far as transducers go, I give the edge to the Humminbird units for the lower cost transducers (bass boat category) and Lowrance units for the high cost units (big water).  Lowrance gets the edge on reliability and customer service.  I especially like the fixed repair fee approach where I can get a $1000 mapper fixed for $90 and get it fixed in three days. As far as whether or not, one brand finds fish better than another brand, that’s a hard call. You need to find a fishfinder that is easy for you to use and shows you what you want to see.  From my point of view, I’m generally interested in what the bottom looks like and how deep is the water.  With that information, I decide where the fish might be. You might want to check out the Lowrance and Humminbird Web sites, they have some good information and you can order catalogs from there Richard  - Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:27Jan96 EVQWK 7.96.04 (Registered)

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