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Thanks Charles,fly fishing for black bass The saltwater Minn Kotas are 24 volt motors, right?  The motor weight might be O.K.  However, it would mean that I have to lug around pairs of 12 volt deep-cycle batteries.  So instead of loading the pathfinder up with one pair of 65 lb. batteries,fly fishing for black bass I would need two pairs of 65 lb. batteries, no?

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No,fly fishing for black bass I don’t have a catalog handy but I’m pretty sure that they make a 12v 44lbs Thrust Ripe Tide. I didn’t mean to suggest that you needed a 24V system. Just that your speed with a light boat like a canoe is more limited by the pitch of the prop than by the thrust of the motor.     I have found that the variable speed on the maxxums a big improvement over the 5 speed models. I used to use a boat with a 5 speed tm and would often find one speed too slow and the next speed up moved the boat to fast.  fly fishing for black bass   I still fish from a canoe alot. I’ve never been impressed with the thought of lugging batteries and trolling motor around in it. I always thought that it’s avantage was how light it was, and how easy it is to manuver. fly fishing for black bass Thanks Charles, The saltwater Minn Kotas are 24 volt motors, right?  The motor weight might be O.K.  However, it would mean that I have to lug around pairs of 12 volt deep-cycle batteries.  So instead of loading the pathfinder up with one pair of 65 lb. batteries,fly fishing for black bass I would need two pairs of 65 lb. batteries, no?

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Charles, You are right!  I see on Minn Kota’s web-page http://www.johnsonoutdoors.com/motors/minnkota/mkfeatspec.html  (and page down), that they offer two transom Rip-Tide models at 12 volts in 40 and 50 lb. thrust versions fly fishing for black bass both with the maximizer feature.  Assuming that they are not too heavy (I’m a big guy and the canoe is hefty–Chestnut Prospector 16′X34″X14″) and they consume no more electricity than the freshwater models, then the extra money might be well worth it.  Now to find somebody who carries it in Canuck-land…. Question about prop pitch and speed versus torque.fly fishing for black bass  I suspect that you are right–I certainly do not need much torque.  Prop pitch is one of those terms I have heard for years and perhaps never fully understood.  Will the “prop pitch” vary between the 40 lb. thrust model and the 50 lb. thrust model?  Or is the prop pitch simply a function of the prop design? As for fishing from a canoe…  I use a canoe for all kinds of things including canoe-tripping, running white-water (usually pretty tame Class II and safer) or simply floating rivers. fly fishing for black bass For stillwater fishing, I find the electric motor makes life much easier.  In fact, for dry fly fishing for stillwater kamloops trout or slinging bass bugs and fur-strip worms between structure for largemouth, handling the electric motor takes some learning, but it sure works well.  Doing that kind of fishing and paddling is tough, especially if you are by yourself. cheers -Erik – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No,     I don’t have a catalog handy but I’m pretty sure that they make a 12v 44lbs Thrust Ripe Tide. I didn’t mean to suggest that you needed a 24V system. Just that your speed with a light boat like a canoe is more limited by the pitch of the prop than by the thrust of the motor.     I have found that the variable speed on the maxxums a big improvement over the 5 speed models. I used to use a boat with a 5 speed tm and would often find one speed too slow and the next speed up moved the boat to fast.     I still fish from a canoe alot. I’ve never been impressed with the thought of lugging batteries and trolling motor around in it. I always thought that it’s avantage was how light it was, and how easy it is to manuver. Charles Thanks Charles, The saltwater Minn Kotas are 24 volt motors, right?  The motor weight might be O.K.  However, it would mean that I have to lug around pairs of 12 volt deep-cycle batteries.  So instead of loading the pathfinder up with one pair of 65 lb. batteries, I would need two pairs of 65 lb. batteries, no?

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Sorry, for the numerous repeats.  I replied to all and Charlie’s address bounced.  Bad interpretation of events.  Apologies. -Erik

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Just bought a new Eureka Tent.  Included in the paperwork is a $10 rebate certificate for M-K. Can’t have mine as I am looking at a new 65 pd/ap. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Charles, You are right!  I see on Minn Kota’s web-page http://www.johnsonoutdoors.com/motors/minnkota/mkfeatspec.html  (and page down), that they offer two transom Rip-Tide models at 12 volts in 40 and 50 lb. thrust versions — both with the maximizer feature.  Assuming that they are not too heavy (I’m a big guy and the canoe is hefty–Chestnut Prospector 16′X34″X14″) and they consume no more electricity than the freshwater models, then the extra money might be well worth it.  Now to find somebody who carries it in Canuck-land…. Question about prop pitch and speed versus torque.  I suspect that you are right–I certainly do not need much torque.  Prop pitch is one of those terms I have heard for years and perhaps never fully understood.  Will the “prop pitch” vary between the 40 lb. thrust model and the 50 lb. thrust model?  Or is the prop pitch simply a function of the prop design? As for fishing from a canoe…  I use a canoe for all kinds of things including canoe-tripping, running white-water (usually pretty tame Class II and safer) or simply floating rivers.  For stillwater fishing, I find the electric motor makes life much easier.  In fact, for dry fly fishing for stillwater kamloops trout or slinging bass bugs and fur-strip worms between structure for largemouth, handling the electric motor takes some learning, but it sure works well.  Doing that kind of fishing and paddling is tough, especially if you are by yourself. cheers -Erik No,     I don’t have a catalog handy but I’m pretty sure that they make a 12v 44lbs Thrust Ripe Tide. I didn’t mean to suggest that you needed a 24V system. Just that your speed with a light boat like a canoe is more limited by the pitch of the prop than by the thrust of the motor.     I have found that the variable speed on the maxxums a big improvement over the 5 speed models. I used to use a boat with a 5 speed tm and would often find one speed too slow and the next speed up moved the boat to fast.     I still fish from a canoe alot. I’ve never been impressed with the thought of lugging batteries and trolling motor around in it. I always thought that it’s avantage was how light it was, and how easy it is to manuver. Charles Thanks Charles, The saltwater Minn Kotas are 24 volt motors, right?  The motor weight might be O.K.  However, it would mean that I have to lug around pairs of 12 volt deep-cycle batteries.  So instead of loading the pathfinder up with one pair of 65 lb. batteries, I would need two pairs of 65 lb. batteries, no?

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Charles:  I think I get the rough idea about pitch–thanks. Incidentally, I am looking at possibly purchasing a Motorguide “Great White” saltwater 12volt 52# thrust motor with pulse-width modulation and variable speed, along with an over-ride switch for full throttle. The dealer who is a repairman (person? talked about installing a reverse switch for the cost of the switch as the Great White does not have reverse on it. Apparently, I get a larger choice of props with the Motorguide. Any comments or experiences with Motorguide saltwater motors? cheers -Erik

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Erik,     I checked a lot of groups before I bought the Maxxum that I use and I althought I didn’t keep a tally the majority seemed to favor the Minkota series motors, I’ve been very happy with my purchase and understand you aprehesion. I liked the features of the Minkota and would have traded some favorable responses for some of the features that fit my situation. Your kind of down to a Dodge, Chevy, Ford decicion and truthfully, if any one of products was that bad the company would go out of busness. Thanks Charles P.S. Sorry for the slow response but I’ve sort of been out for the last couple of weeks – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Charles:  I think I get the rough idea about pitch–thanks. Incidentally, I am looking at possibly purchasing a Motorguide “Great White” saltwater 12volt 52# thrust motor with pulse-width modulation and variable speed, along with an over-ride switch for full throttle. The dealer who is a repairman (person? talked about installing a reverse switch for the cost of the switch as the Great White does not have reverse on it. Apparently, I get a larger choice of props with the Motorguide. Any comments or experiences with Motorguide saltwater motors? cheers -Erik

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I want to buy a new electric trolling motor to replace an aging 36 lb. thrust Minn-Kota 65T and thought this might be the best place to come for advice. Use and needs:  on a 16 ft. canvas canoe for flyfishing in lakes, rivers and occasionally saltwater. What I want is the most powerful, fastest motor I can run on a 12 volt battery.  So I think my ideal motor looks like:  transom mount, 50 to 54 lb. thrust (12 volt), 36 inch shaft, hand-control. Minn Kota’s literature suggests that their maximizer model will help me get upto 5 times more fishing time out of a deep-cycle battery charge. Comments? Motorguide advertise 12 volt motors at 54 lb. thrust, whereas Minn Kotas 12 volt motors only go up to 50 lb. thrust.  But does that extra thrust translate into higher speeds? With a canoe, I don’t believe I need torque and therefore suspect that I don’t need a triple-bladed prop but rather a larger, double-bladed prop. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.  The simple discrete speed Minn-Kota 65T has served me well, but has been beaten up over 8 years of use in both fresh and salt. cheers -Erik

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Minn_kota also says that the max speed of a trolling motor is about 5 mph because of the pitch of the prop. The simple truth is that large trolling motors are built to pull large loaded and heavy bass boats. I have a Minn Kota Maxxum on a 15 footer but for the salt I think I would look at the Ripe Tide series {looks like the same motor} I think for your app I’d look at the 44 Ripe tide. 10lbs one way or another on the canoe isn’t going to make a differance but Variable speed will make you life much easier. Charles – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to buy a new electric trolling motor to replace an aging 36 lb. thrust Minn-Kota 65T and thought this might be the best place to come for advice. Use and needs:  on a 16 ft. canvas canoe for flyfishing in lakes, rivers and occasionally saltwater. What I want is the most powerful, fastest motor I can run on a 12 volt battery.  So I think my ideal motor looks like:  transom mount, 50 to 54 lb. thrust (12 volt), 36 inch shaft, hand-control. Minn Kota’s literature suggests that their maximizer model will help me get upto 5 times more fishing time out of a deep-cycle battery charge. Comments? Motorguide advertise 12 volt motors at 54 lb. thrust, whereas Minn Kotas 12 volt motors only go up to 50 lb. thrust.  But does that extra thrust translate into higher speeds? With a canoe, I don’t believe I need torque and therefore suspect that I don’t need a triple-bladed prop but rather a larger, double-bladed prop. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.  The simple discrete speed Minn-Kota 65T has served me well, but has been beaten up over 8 years of use in both fresh and salt. cheers -Erik

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