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Blown off the Water hawk bass fishing boat dealer

admin — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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It’s diameter, but I don’t think it actually opens that far in the water. hawk bass fishing boat dealer A parchute rigger should be able to tell if what they call is 9′ is if the material was 9′ from side to side or the opening was 9′. hawk bass fishing boat dealer Closest I was to the riggers was at Hamilton AFB and they had a room on the back of the electronics shop.

Now you have me wondering: is the 9′ measurement DIAMETER or CIRCUMFERENCE? –

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Bill, I had parachute lofts from Danang to Quonset Point and on six aircraft carriers (air groups).hawk bass fishing boat dealer I thought 9′ diameter excessive (still do for that boat) because it would be more efficient to use two 4′ers, and you would be able to gain more utility from either one depending upon conditions. Have you considered that alternative-hawk bass fishing boat dealer-or was the price right and the conditions you use them suited for all your fishing? Then you should continue by all means to use your parachute. Like they say, whatever floats your boat…er, in this case, whatever slows your boat hawk bass fishing boat dealer It’s diameter, but I don’t think it actually opens that far in the water. A parchute rigger should be able to tell if what they call is 9′ is if the material was 9′ from side to side or the opening was 9′. Closest I was to the riggers was at Hamilton AFB and they had a room on the back of the electronics shop hawk bass fishing boat dealer. Now you have me wondering: is the 9′ measurement DIAMETER or CIRCUMFERENCE? –

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For $39 and not having to deal with 2 chutes, it does the job.hawk bass fishing boat dealer It is probably 6′ across when in the water, with a 10″ hole at the top. It’s a real heavy, camo material, not like the stuff in the personel chutes. hawk bass fishing boat dealer I had parachute lofts from Danang to Quonset Point and on six aircraft carriers (air groups). I thought 9′ diameter excessive (still do for that boat) because it would be more efficient to use two 4′ers, and you would be able to gain more utility from either one depending upon conditions. Have you considered that alternative–or was the price right and the conditions you use them suited for all your fishing? Then you should continue by all means to use your parachute. Like they say, whatever floats your boat…er, in this case, whatever slows your boat.

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I use a 9′ parachute. $39 from and military surplus store. Thats all a drift sock is, a bucket that is cloth. I use mine in the ocean when drifting for salmon and the wind is blowing. Also use anchored in the bay and the tide is sorta running and the wind is blowing to keep the boat from swinging back and forth. As to bass, I fish a delta area with high levees, so normally can get out of the big winds. Bill

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren, There are pictures of these things in the Cabela’s Master Catalog Spring 1999 Edition II on pages 46 and 47. Greg Gonda Jim, I understand the concept of a sea anchor, but I’ve never seen one. Can you describe it in detail? What’s it made of? How do you keep it open/inflated/other terms? In other words, what makes it grab water instead of folding up or in? Warren Funk Rich, A sea anchor (drift sock, waterbucket with holes, etc.

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The sea anchors used by the Navy when I was in had dynamic (sphincter) vents. The opening could be enlarged and it would close to the smaller diameter, depending upon hydrodynamic pressure.

Ain’t that the truth?

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I drive a 21′ Jetcraft aluminum jetboat, with a large freeboard and only draws about 8″ at rest, runs in a foot of water and don’t have to worry about props. See http://www.duckworthboats.com/duckwrth.htm 2nd boat down is my type the inboard. Actually a 9′ is a good size in big wind. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bill, A 9-foot parachute? What do you drive, a DESTROYER?

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Bill, I kinda thought it would be more like a semi than a regular with that size of drag chute! Right about the high freeboard and size, huh? Do you have any problems with jetskiers?

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I drive a 21′ Jetcraft aluminum jetboat, with a large freeboard and only draws about 8″ at rest, runs in a foot of water and don’t have to worry about props. See http://www.duckworthboats.com/duckwrth.htm 2nd boat down is my type the inboard. Actually a 9′ is a good size in big wind. Bill

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OK, I finally got it, thanks to Al, Jim and Charles. Appreciate all the help and info to a landlubber. Hey, I’m from Kansas originally, I never saw the ocean or even the gulf until just before the Air Force sent me overseas. Couldn’t have handled the Navy, found out recently I have a problem with my balance nerve (I didn’t even know I had one) which has alway made me very prone to motion sickness. The lake I fish on is very small and I’m not sure it’s even large enough to rig up a drift sock. A good wind would blow me from one end to the other in about three minutes. But I at least have an option now. Thanks, guys. Warren F.

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But I’m still missing something here: it sounds as if the drift socks have a hole in the center to release water slowly? That’s correct. On some models the size of the hole is adjustable to give additional control to the drift speed. Another feature to look for is a trip line that connects to the inside center of the canopy. The trip line allows you to retrieve the drift sock by turning it inside out. Pulling a big drift sock in a stiff wind can be tough without the trip line. And I still can’t figure out what keeps them open. It seems to me that if you threw something in the water without a frame, that it would be like dragging a piece of cloth through the water. The drift sock opens for the same reason that an old style parachute opens. If you are drifting down a river with the current (no wind) and throw a drift sock into the water, it will just lay there and have no effect at all, since the boat and the sock are both being pulled at the same speed by the current. When the wind blows your boat, the boat is blown over the surface of the water. The drift sock gets dragged along as well and the pressure of the water moving past and into the drift sock opens it just like a parachute. There are times that the sock doesn’t open due to it being tangled, but a little adjustment will get it to open. Also, I have found that adjusting the length of the rope the connects the sock to the boat can help the sock open up better. Longer is better, up to a point. For small boats, you could try just using a 5 gal. bucket. It may work better if you cut a 2 or 3 inch hole in the bottom, but it’s a cheap way to try it out. Plus, they don’t tangle and you can use 2 or 3 to adjust your drift speed and angle to the wind. — Charlie Peil “Never use absolutes.”

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It’s a BIG jetski :^) The 9′ has a hole at the center so it does spill some water. I find it works great, and cost was $39 at a surplus store. They also make 6′ chutes, and they cost a little less. I have what Jetcraft calls the Bluewater model. Has more freeboard and 20 degree bow entry for use in bays and moderate seas / oceans. It goes 43 MPH, and draws about 5″ at that speed, takes a foot of water to run in as it will squat on takeoff. 300 HP vacuum cleaner to the bottom. gets 1.74 to 2 MPG. I run a 53″ Minn-kota 48# thrust for a bow mount while bass fishing. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bill, I kinda thought it would be more like a semi than a regular with that size of drag chute! Right about the high freeboard and size, huh? Do you have any problems with jetskiers?

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Bill, Now you have me wondering: is the 9′ measurement DIAMETER or CIRCUMFERENCE? — Jim Pankey, USN (Ret.) “Barbless Bassin’”

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It’s a BIG jetski :^) The 9′ has a hole at the center so it does spill some water. I find it works great, and cost was $39 at a surplus store. They also make 6′ chutes, and they cost a little less. I have what Jetcraft calls the Bluewater model. Has more freeboard and 20 degree bow entry for use in bays and moderate seas / oceans. It goes 43 MPH, and draws about 5″ at that speed, takes a foot of water to run in as it will squat on takeoff. 300 HP vacuum cleaner to the bottom. gets 1.74 to 2 MPG. I run a 53″ Minn-kota 48# thrust for a bow mount while bass fishing. Bill Bill, I kinda thought it would be more like a semi than a regular with that size of drag chute! Right about the high freeboard and size, huh? Do you have any problems with jetskiers?

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Yes. ;^) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bill, Now you have me wondering: is the 9′ measurement DIAMETER or CIRCUMFERENCE? –

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Warren, There are pictures of these things in the Cabela’s Master Catalog Spring 1999 Edition II on pages 46 and 47. Greg Gonda Jim, I understand the concept of a sea anchor, but I’ve never seen one. Can you describe it in detail? What’s it made of? How do you keep it open/inflated/other terms? In other words, what makes it grab water instead of folding up or in? Warren Funk Rich, A sea anchor (drift sock, waterbucket with holes, etc.

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Yeah Jim, Lend us your expertise on this one. I can’t wait to read the response ) — The RodMaker http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim, I understand the concept of a sea anchor, but I’ve never seen one. Can you describe it in detail? What’s it made of? How do you keep it open/inflated/other terms? In other words, what makes it grab water instead of folding up or in? Warren Funk Rich, A sea anchor (drift sock, waterbucket with holes, etc.

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Jim, I understand the concept of a sea anchor, but I’ve never seen one. Can you describe it in detail? What’s it made of? How do you keep it open/inflated/other terms? In other words, what makes it grab water instead of folding up or in? Warren Funk

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rich, A sea anchor (drift sock, waterbucket with holes, etc.

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Rich, A sea anchor (drift sock, waterbucket with holes, etc.

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Thanks for the “windy” update. We’ve got some of that same wind in Texas too! I had a thought ( rare occurrence ) while reading your post. You, and I, fight the wind every time we fish freshwater. When I fish saltwater flats just a great big lake, really ) we “drift” fish. That means that we cast way out in front of the boat. The boat naturally drifts sideways, so both of the fishermen have a good casting position! And, they both get to cast WITH the wind! We actually use a “drift chute” ( big parachute like drift anchor – made out of canvas) to slow our “drift” down so we don’t run over the fish. We always fish way way away out from the boat( I use 7 1/2 ft rods. I actually have an 8 footer! ) and we catch at least our share. I rarely try this in freshwater. I guess I am too tuned into the trolling motor etc. ? Next time out, when the wind blows— I’m going to fish saltwater flats style and see if I don’t do just as well as fighting the stuff. If I do…( or don’t ) Hello All, I broke down and paid up to the gas pump today so I could go fishing. I live in Southwest Washington, and I wanted to go to the John Day river and fish for some smallmouth bass. It is about 130 miles. I started out at about 6:00 am and had the boat in the water and fishing about 9:00. I stopped for breakfast. I put in and started upriver and boy was the wind blowing, I have not seen it like that in a few years. Yes I did check the weather report, but their forecast did not talk about this kind of wind. Anyway I have a boat with a high freeboard (distance from waterline to top of chine), and in this wind it acted like a sail. I had the trolling motor turned up to high speed and as deep in the water as it would go, with a new charged battery and nothing I could do would keep that boat headed into the wind. Finally I had to let the wind blow me around and just keep it sort of straight the best I could. While keeping the boat off the rocks and casting a little for them fish, I never really could get set. Finally at noon I had enough. I put the boat on the trailer and came home. I wish I had bought the 107 LB thrust motor, I only have 48LB. model. I don’t think any of the other fisherman were catching anything either, as I never saw a rod bend with a fish. Boy it was tough. I have a tournament their in three weeks and I hope the weather is better. Have fun/. Monty

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Hi Thanks for the “windy” update. We’ve got some of that same wind in Texas too! I had a thought ( rare occurrence ) while reading your post. You, and I, fight the wind every time we fish freshwater. When I fish saltwater flats just a great big lake, really ) we “drift” fish. That means that we cast way out in front of the boat. The boat naturally drifts sideways, so both of the fishermen have a good casting position! And, they both get to cast WITH the wind! We actually use a “drift chute” ( big parachute like drift anchor – made out of canvas) to slow our “drift” down so we don’t run over the fish. We always fish way way away out from the boat( I use 7 1/2 ft rods. I actually have an 8 footer! ) and we catch at least our share. I rarely try this in freshwater. I guess I am too tuned into the trolling motor etc. ? Next time out, when the wind blows— I’m going to fish saltwater flats style and see if I don’t do just as well as fighting the stuff. If I do…( or don’t ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello All, I broke down and paid up to the gas pump today so I could go fishing. I live in Southwest Washington, and I wanted to go to the John Day river and fish for some smallmouth bass. It is about 130 miles. I started out at about 6:00 am and had the boat in the water and fishing about 9:00. I stopped for breakfast. I put in and started upriver and boy was the wind blowing, I have not seen it like that in a few years. Yes I did check the weather report, but their forecast did not talk about this kind of wind. Anyway I have a boat with a high freeboard (distance from waterline to top of chine), and in this wind it acted like a sail. I had the trolling motor turned up to high speed and as deep in the water as it would go, with a new charged battery and nothing I could do would keep that boat headed into the wind. Finally I had to let the wind blow me around and just keep it sort of straight the best I could. While keeping the boat off the rocks and casting a little for them fish, I never really could get set. Finally at noon I had enough. I put the boat on the trailer and came home. I wish I had bought the 107 LB thrust motor, I only have 48LB. model. I don’t think any of the other fisherman were catching anything either, as I never saw a rod bend with a fish. Boy it was tough. I have a tournament their in three weeks and I hope the weather is better. Have fun/. Monty

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Hello All, I broke down and paid up to the gas pump today so I could go fishing. I live in Southwest Washington, and I wanted to go to the John Day river and fish for some smallmouth bass. It is about 130 miles. I started out at about 6:00 am and had the boat in the water and fishing about 9:00. I stopped for breakfast. I put in and started upriver and boy was the wind blowing, I have not seen it like that in a few years. Yes I did check the weather report, but their forecast did not talk about this kind of wind. Anyway I have a boat with a high freeboard (distance from waterline to top of chine), and in this wind it acted like a sail. I had the trolling motor turned up to high speed and as deep in the water as it would go, with a new charged battery and nothing I could do would keep that boat headed into the wind. Finally I had to let the wind blow me around and just keep it sort of straight the best I could. While keeping the boat off the rocks and casting a little for them fish, I never really could get set. Finally at noon I had enough. I put the boat on the trailer and came home. I wish I had bought the 107 LB thrust motor, I only have 48LB. model. I don’t think any of the other fisherman were catching anything either, as I never saw a rod bend with a fish. Boy it was tough. I have a tournament their in three weeks and I hope the weather is better. Have fun/. Monty

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yodo worms fly fishing maine striped bass

admin — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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Yodo’s are becoming pretty popular all fly fishing maine striped bass across the country. The “prettiness” of their ugly faces appeals to the fisherman before it appeals to the fish Those things are ugly.fly fishing maine striped bass Do they catch bass? Or just bass fishermen? ~~ Bass Wishes from South Florida! BassGuide Software http://members.aol.com/kazeej/index.html Need a web page? I’ll do your first 3 pages for free. E-mail me for details.

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If I was a bass, I’d bite at them.fly fishing maine striped bass.. “We must protect the forests for our children, grandchildren and children yet to be born. We must protect the forests for those who can’t speak for themselves such as the birds, animals, fish and trees.”

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Hi Kazeej, Everyone who tries them has been impressed with the catches they’ve made on the Yodos.fly fishing maine striped bass They’re best for finesse due to their softness and their very detailed, subtle color patterns…which are a benefit in finesse fishing. The longer sizes are typically “rigged” in one manner or another using an offset shank hook…with either Carolina, texas or Florida weights,fly fishing maine striped bass etc. The smaller 4″ and especially the 3″ sizes lend themselves better to rigging on a light jig head. The bodies are too short and not meaty enough in the back to usually rig them on an offset hook…althiugh it can be done with a shorter shank like the Owner Rig’n Hook. The 3″ goes well on some of the Charlie Brwer Slider style heads for light lines.

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I have the straight tail 4 and 6 in worms. Caught 2 bass Sunday evening in a short period of time using them Texas rigged. They have great action. I will be ordering some 8 in shortly. — GARY

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Gary, how well do these worms hold up … they appear to be quite soft. Can you compare their suppleness to, say, a zoom finesse worm? Joel “The future will be better tomorrow.” — a certain Vice President * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Joel the yodos are quite soft (softer than the zoom baits)However i find they hold up as well as any other finess worm. the worms softness is part of the action and appeal to the fish. hope this answers your question. ripper * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Thanks Ripper. Was curious as to their durability … at about $0.50 each I don’t want to have to be changing them out too often because they don’t hold up. They sure are a great looking plastic. They look a bit like the Cabela’s Living Eye plastics. Anyone used the Living Eye baits? Joel “We must protect the forests for our children, grandchildren and children yet to be born. We must protect the forests for those who can’t speak for themselves such as the birds, animals, fish and trees.” – Qwatsinas, Nuxalk Nation * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Yodo’s are becoming pretty popular all across the country. The “prettiness” of their ugly faces appeals to the fisherman before it appeals to the fish. If you want, you can see what they look like at this web site: http://www.hookedonplastics.com/yodo3.html Want bass boats, bass lures, tackle?

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Bass Fishing in Lakeville,striped bass fly fishing MA

admin — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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striped bass fly fishing How smart are Bass when it comes to being caught more than once? I know they get caught more than once, but do they eventually learn their lesson and stop hitting lines?

well i’ll answer this from my experience after fishing&prefishing tourny’s for many years i’ve had 2 fish recaught one fish my partner hooked and broke off near the boat about 2 hours later I boated the fish with the hook striped bass fly fishing and worm still in its mouth the 2nd was in clear water under a tree in plain view I hooked the fish and released it it went back to the same spot, this repeated three times on the same lure I then left the fish alone p/s this was on mashpee wakeby some years ago ’I'm also a mass basser

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Have been using large minnows and rubber slug jigs to catch Bass in Lakeville.striped bass fly fishing My wife and I caught over a dozen last weekend, ranging from .5 to 3.75 pounds. Fishing was so good we were on the water from 5:30AM to 7PM! Question1: Does anyone fish for Bass with a fly rod? I just got one for my birthday and have a few interesting flies to try (shiner, crayfish, and dragonfly). Question2: How smart are Bass when it comes to being caught more than once? I know they get caught more than once, but do they eventually learn their lesson and stop hitting lines?

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Good to see a bass angler in Mass.striped bass fly fishing having lots of success. I fish for bass with a 5-weight fly rod, and this will give you a terriffic fight! Not too much rod…This time of year I have had lots of luck with a blue damselfly pattern just gently floated on top, especially if blue damselflies are visible around you. Usually, on bass water in this state, in August, they are. At sunset, a small cork popper will also get some great topwater strikes. Underwater, a Wooly Worm can get lots of hits year-round. Fly fishing for bass in New England is excellent.striped bass fly fishing Bass are more forgiving of a sloppy presentation (unlike trout) and hold the bait longer so you can hook up. Naturally, de-barb the hook in case they really bite. Try it at sunset just when the waters really get calm, and the fish are hungry. Good luck,

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I like you Fred you sound like my kinda fisherman.smallmouth bass charters Most guys here at this bass group seem to think its ok that bums are doin bum stuff all the time. From what I seen so far an the threats I got from them when I was usin compuserv I figger most of these bass guys are bums. Maybe even worse bums than the bums at the Coleman store there. Anyways If your ever up here in NY maybe we can wet a line or somethin. Ill talk to you later. MEOW!!!!!!! Tony G.smallmouth bass charters 3133t from Medial Catastrophy an intitated by Crisis

Cool, Tony G. I look forward to your next fishing story. They’re always pretty interesting. BTW, I know what you mean – it seems like there are bums no matter where you go fishing, even in the newsgroups. MEOW Tony G. MEOW1!!!! Fred Ziffel Whaddaya expect? It’s the friggin’ cable company.

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And what you just did was not? Excuse me for raining on your parade Cat Boy, but didn’t your mother and father ever teach you any respect? If my life was so null and void of any meaning I wouldn’t continue to live that way. I wouldn’t even consider myself part of the human race if my life was as void of meaning as yours. Perhaps if you would enjoy the finer points of life, you would see the errors in your ways. Perhaps you should consider seeing a representitave of your local mental health department, as it seems to me, in my less than humble opinion, you are screaming for help. Didn’t your mother breast feed you? Or perhaps your father didn’t give you the attention you desired? Maybe it was the Uncle from Upstate that made you the way you are? Now, mind you, this is just a preliminary diagnosis based on the postings I have seen, Let alone the ones I haven’t. Please, for the sake of yourself, and those that may care for you, Get Help! — Mike.. A true fisherman approaches the first day of fishing much as a child approaches Christmas, with the eager anticipation, sleepless nights, making of lists, and the anticipating of pleasure.

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No, I am a figment of your imagination. You must be one sick, twisted, demented little fucker to dream up *me*. HTH. — “Hi, I’m Ch

3 hp bass fishing boat manufacturers

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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I found a source to buy a 3 hp cheap.bass fishing boat manufacturers It is suppose to be in need of a tune up. If this is truthful is a tune up for a motor like this very involved. I intend to use it for bass fishing.

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I recently replaced ignition parts and water pump impeller on a ‘59 Johnson Seahorse 3hp. bass fishing boat manufacturers Motor would run, but just barely. I got 2 coils, 2 sets of points and condensors and water pump impeller from local NAPA for $70. Difficulty was like replacing same items on lawnmower engine. Check compression before buying old motor. If its not good, it could mean a major overhaul. BL… I found a source to buy a 3 hp cheap. It is suppose to be in need of a tune up. If this is truthful is a tune up for a motor like this very involved.bass fishing boat manufacturers I intend to use it for bass fishing.

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Don’t buy any boat motor unless you see it run.bass fishing boat manufacturers You can get burned bad. — Go Fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales.

I found a source to buy a 3 hp cheap. It is suppose to be in need of a tune up. If this is truthful is a tune up for a motor like this very involved. I intend to use it for bass fishing. Al

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And not just running at idle in a tub of water.bass fishing boat manufacturers Make sure you can take it out under load. Been there done that! Bought a used 9.9 on condition of a proper test, on the lake under load. Well needless to say, the motor idled fine, but once we were out of the no-wake zone, nothing. The hub was spun on the propeller, and the lower unit was leaking badly. Clunked in and out of gear, all kinds of trouble, but it idled great!

Don’t buy any boat motor unless you see it run. You can get burned bad. — Go Fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales. bass fishing boat manufacturers Columbia, SC Lake Murray I found a source to buy a 3 hp cheap. It is suppose to be in need of a tune up. If this is truthful is a tune up for a motor like this very involved. I intend to use it for bass fishing. Al

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Need to purchase biggest largemouth bass a new fishing reel

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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I have been using the Daiwa Black and Gold biggest largemouth bass (BG10) and will be purchasing another with extra spools. I’ve been trying to find a good reel for the last 10 years and finally settled on that one. I especially like the quick-release spool so I can change line quickly. The BG10 is really an ultra-light reel. Based on your message, you’d probably prefer the BG15 or BG20. Just my opinion.biggest largemouth bass I need to purchase a new spinning reel. I am looking for any recommendations for a medium action (large mouth bass & northern pike) spinning reel. I am hoping to use either spider wire or fire line on it.biggest largemouth bass I would prefer if it doesn’t cost over $60.00. Thanks * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com

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Kmart has the Spirex on sale this week .

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I bought an Abu Garcia Tournament for $65.biggest largemouth bass Really smooth and a great drag. Comes with a spare aluminum spool, with a tie point for the braided lines so they won’t slip. frank

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Some of you Mitchell 300 users should think about buying a reel for this century..

OUCH!

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Some of you Mitchell 300 users should think about buying a reel for this century..

Some ? Why not all ?biggest largemouth bass I say use whatever you like , but in order to like something , you had to try it .

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shipping. That’s about what I paid for my old coffee grinder 300 back in the early 60’s..

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In my experience, Spirex is real good, but I have three Quantum Energy reels (one ER3, two ER5) that are the smoothest, most well-balanced reels I’ve ever used. Instant anti-reverse is truly instant. I wonder though, if they’re discontinued because they’re not in the last two Bass Pro catalogs, though some retail outlets have them. I’ve used mono and Fusion with excellent results. For the money they are very hard to beat. Only a quick-change spool could make them better in my opinion.

I need to purchase a new spinning reel. I am looking for any recommendations for a medium action (large mouth bass & northern pike) spinning reel. I am hoping to use either spider wire or fire line on it. I would prefer if it doesn’t cost over $60.00. Thanks * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find

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The Mitchell 300 Excellence – which is supposed to be the “300″ of skirted spool reels – seems quite solid and smooth. The retrieve on the 300’s is a little slow for some uses, but most of us work lures too fast anyway.

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I, like Guy, swore by 300’s for many years, but agree that the Spirex reels are light years ahead. In their day, 300’s were the benchmark, but design and materials have improved. If you must use a super line, go Spiderwire. I trashed (literally) a 300 yd. spool of Fireline after a one day trial. Good luck Mike m

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I need to purchase a new spinning reel. I am looking for any recommendations for a medium action (large mouth bass & northern pike) spinning reel. I am hoping to use either spider wire or fire line on it. I would prefer if it doesn’t cost over $60.00. Thanks I use two Shimano Spirex reels, one a model 2000 FD, the other a 4000 RD. These are $59.95 from BPS, but I bought the 4000 used/excellent on E Bay for $36 (!!). They are both smooth and reliable reels which I highly recommend–they beat my old Mitchell 300s by a mile! I have no experience with the new lines, as I spool up with mono on all my spinning reels. Guy A Ripley, TN

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A lot depends on the features you prefer,the Spirex is a fast cast reel without a instant anti reverse and comes with a spare spool.. The Shimano Sahara is a reel without fastcast and has a instant anti reverse, it has a spare spool also.. Both have a power roller which helps avoid line twists. The Daiwa Black Gold is a fine reel but lacks updated features ie Instant anti reverse, power roller and fast cast. This reel does not come with a free spare spool. The Daiwa Regal Z-iA reel has great features, costs about $55 and comes with a spare spool. Another reel to consider is the Shakespeare Intrepid 60 SS, they are only $30 and have instant anti reverse, power roller with stainless steel components plus it comes with a spare spool. You have some very good reels to choose from.. Some of you Mitchell 300 users should think about buying a reel for this century..

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I use two Shimano Spirex reels, one a model 2000 FD, the other a 4000 RD. These are $59.95 from BPS, but I bought the 4000 used/excellent on E Bay for $36 (!!). They are both smooth and reliable reels which I highly recommend–they beat my old Mitchell 300s by a mile! I have no experience with the new lines, as I spool up with mono on all my spinning reels. Guy A Ripley, TN WORK like you don’t need the money, LOVE like you’ve never been hurt, DANCE like nobody’s watching!

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For under 60.00 it’s hard to beat a Shimano Spirex. I have 3 and love them,and have had no trouble. Randy Coulter

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Price for Butterfly Koi world largemouth bass

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Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp.world largemouth bass It was all silver (Actually shined from the sun at the bottom of a 5′ pond) with no other coloring, and the fins were really large and in perfect condition.(I’m using my own opinion on this) The Koi was 12 or 13″ long.world largemouth bass What in your opinion would be a fair price on a Koi like this? TIA

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Was it silver (gin) or platinum (white) Ogon (solid color) ? It really depends on where you are, here on Canada’s west coast you could expect to pay about $200 depending on quality, show koi going for thousands. If you really love it then pay what you think it’s worth to you.world largemouth bass Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp. It was all silver (Actually shined from the sun at the bottom of a 5′ pond) with no other coloring, and the fins were really large and in perfect condition.(I’m using my own opinion on this) The Koi was 12 or 13″ long. What in your opinion would be a fair price on a Koi like this? TIA

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I was given one “similar” to this and the same size… they called it a ghost koi and the retail price was $125.00. I bought a real small one later on for $10.00.world largemouth bass . “It’s not hard to meet expenses; they’re everywhere.” Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp.

The Koi was 12 or 13″ long. What in your opinionworld largemouth bass would be a fair price on a Koi like this?

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In Missouri you can pay as much as $10.00 per inch. Sometimes more depending on type of koi and you will be lucky to find butterfly koi this year here. VJ –

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The short answer seems, if the price is good for you then that’s all that matters. Otherwise, could you tell us what they’re asking for the fish. That would give a better ballpark figure to know if you are being gouged or not. I will agree that if the fish is as pretty as you say $100 is not outrageous. — Todo — North Florida Koi Club,

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Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp. It was all silver (Actually shined from the sun at the bottom of a 5′ pond) with no other coloring, and the fins were really large and in perfect condition.(I’m using my own opinion on this) The Koi was 12 or 13″ long. What in your opinion would be a fair price on a Koi like this? TIA

Bill: It is just how much you want the fish. I have to watch my pennies (old guy on a fixed income you know ), so I figure I can earn $50 to $100 by buying a small quality fish and growing it to the size you mention in a year. vern — Visit my Ponds at: HTTP://www.webpak.net/~vrolson

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Thanks, you all made me feel better of my purchase, I wasn’t sure if I did good or not!! I’m new at this, so I really appreciate the help. I guess you can tell I don’t know my “Koi Kolors”! As D/E van Ryswyk pointed out the color is a Platinum (Pure White), with very long flowing fins, all in good shape. Now the weird part of the story starts! I had been to the nursery about a month ago, and first seen the this Koi. I had just left a fish store where they had 2 Koi just like this one for sale as a pair for $60.00, but they were about 2 1/2″ long. I asked the girl taking care of the fish, if that fish was for sale, and she said “No, because the fish in that pond are to hard to catch.” I left it at that, because the other store had the smaller ones, if I really wanted one that bad. Yesterday my cousin and I were driving around, and being that he also has a new pond, I wanted to show him the two Koi at the store, and I was thinking to myself that I might talk him into splitting the pair with me if he really liked them. Well of course the two were gone, so I took him over to the nursery to show him the big one. On the way I was thinking that being the end of the season, maybe they would make the effort to catch this fish, and sell it to me. When we got there, there was a different girl doing the pond stuff, so I asked her if the Koi in the front pond were for sale. The answer I got was,”Well I was told no by the other girl, but I think her opinion is biased, so I’ll go ask the owner.” She came back and said “yes, they are for sale, any fish in the pond for $49.95″. Well after almost ripping the back pocket off my pants, trying to get to my wallet, (of course keeping my composure at all times!) I told her that the one I wanted was the White Butterfly Koi. she went and got two nets, and in about 10 min. it was in the bag (so to speak!) When we walked into the main store part of the nursery, you should have seen the heads turn! All the other sales girls were telling her that that Koi was not for sale! Then one of them said “none of the fish in that pond are for sale, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE !!” (well I thought the jig was up, and there was a large tear forming in me eye.) The sales girl replied that she had asked the owner, and even asked if he was sure, and he ok’ed the sale. Well we almost burned rubber leaving the place, and I’m hoping that other sales girl, that usually takes care of the fish at the nursery, is not lurking in my yard at night with a net, and a gun!! But I got the Koi for 49.99, and he seams very happy in my pond!! Thanks again for the help. Bill Gunn P.S. I wonder if she reads this news group!

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Thanks, you all made me feel better of my purchase, I wasn’t sure if I did good or not!!

that was cheaper than wholesale cost on a fish/type that size — Ken Arnold, ICQ # 1028648 KenCo Fish & Supplies Pond and Aquarium fish, Shipping plants/fish etc. a specialty Imported & domestic Koi,Goldfish,Orandas, Tropicals,exotics, Piranhas etc.

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I recently bought a yellow butterfly with very little black shading -17 inches long for $200 at a retail store here in Santa Cruz, CA. Got tired of lurking! — Barry

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Barry, tired of lurking, wrote ~~I recently bought a yellow butterfly with very little black shading -17 inches long for $200 at a retail store here in Santa Cruz, CA. ~~ Hi Barry! Welcome to rec.ponds! Every once in a while I get an attack of koi envy and your new butterfly did it. Sounds like a loverly fish. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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Hi Barry, welcome to the group. Tell us about your pond and fish…. ) — Carol… “Jury: Twelve people who determine which client has the better attorney.” – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got tired of lurking!

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Prices for Koi at Local Breeder, seems to charge the same for Butterfly Koi, these prices are approximate, but very close. Once they hit 12″ the price skyrockets! 10 to 24″……I don’t know, never seen one priced at this breeder of this size.

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If yall are buying “Butterfly Koi”, you’re getting ripped off even if you are getting $10 to take the fish away. Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph. Brett

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Last week I was at Petsmart and saw the a gorgeous butterfly koi–all shiny bright yellow with black trim, about 5 inches long for 3 bucks.

The Petsmart in my area also carries koi for $1.99 and up. I bought 6 3″ koi last spring ($1.99 each) and they are now beautiful fish. A few are metallic orange and some are yellow, one is bluish,… some have sparkle/diamond scales, one doesn’t… what beauties! The 5″ koi they were selling were $9.99 and they had a few real nice one’s about 8″ that were $69.99. There were not butterfly koi though. I found really choice butterfly koi at the Aquatic Critter in Nashville for $5.99 and up. This is all colors too, and all sizes. I bought a bunch of them. :o) — Carol… “The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.” – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

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Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph.

WHAT? Are ye daft? They’re beautiful with those long flowing fins, they’re so graceful, so ethereal…. and they come in so many colors. — Carol… likes all koi…. and GF…. “The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.”

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are getting $10 to take the fish away. Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph. Brett

NO way…. I know what I like and I like butterfly koi….. they are prettier and showier.. vj

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Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph. WHAT? Are ye daft? They’re beautiful with those long flowing fins, they’re so graceful, so ethereal…. and they come in so many colors. — Carol… likes all koi…. and GF…. “The only difference between a rut and a grave is the depth.”

They are deformed and fly in the face of true animal breeding tenets. By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed. Propogating physical deformities does not fit that definition (for me). I feel very much the same about goldfish. The “breed anything for money” mentality doesn’t work well in horses, dogs, or fish. OTOH, I have seen one or two longfins that were atractive in thier own way. But, they are not koi. Koi do not have long fins. They have thier place in the ornamental fish world, and are even beginning to show up with thier own category in koi shows. However, I’ve seen time and again, a longfin disqualified and not be judged as a koi, because it is not one. I’ve even had to be a longfin judge in the past at fish shows because most certified judges will not judge them. I know they are popular in the US. In Japan, even the breeder that did the most to develop the breed has given up and sold his breeding stock a few years back. As far as I know, most longfins are now only bred in the US where there seems to be a strong market. You won’t find any coming from my farm. I must admit, though, I have been experimenting with “normal” koi out of longfin lineage as breeding stock for stronger koi. Longfins are tough and grow fast and big, all good qualities which would be a benefit in koi. I’ve not been doing it long enough to see if it might be working. Brett

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Brett knows a lot about Koi breeding, as the folks in this group are well aware of . To ridicule someone about text wrapping is irrelevant , and tells everybody you just figured it out. Vince GMT): By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed. Propogating

physical deformities does not fit that definition (for me). I feel very much the same about goldfish. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Obviously, you know little about breeding (or how to keep lines to < 79 chars, at most (heh-heh) Corne1 Huth - http://40th.com/ Bullet database engines/servers 3.1 Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

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By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed. Propogating physical deformities does not fit that definition

(for me). I feel very much the same about goldfish. Obviously, you know little about breeding (or how to keep lines to < 79 chars, at most). Breeders only care about what sells, that’s the way it is, and in-breeding gets you what in-breeding gets you. My butterfly koi are kool koi. My BK are tough koi. BK probably aren’t what you sell, so it’s easy (and in your best interest) to poo-poo BK. (heh-heh) Corne1 Huth - http://40th.com/ Bullet database engines/servers 3.1 Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

I have only been a fish breeder. During the last 20 or so years, I’ve bred about 60 species and hybrids of fishes and invertebrates commercially. During that entire time, I’ve practiced sound breeding and worked to improve the breed as well as make it profitable. This has been the case with channel catfish for the table, largemouth bass for the fishing lake, and koi for the back yard pool. Each operation in which I was the person responsible for breeding fish for whatever purpose has a record of my attempts to improve the breed for its intended use. My outbred strain of channel catfish grew quickly, had an excellent dress out percentage, and was resistant to poor water quality and disease. For five years, I bred and stocked over 35 million channel catfish each year. I used selected stock from nine states, including strains from private, state and federal sources. The problems associated with breeding such huge numbers of animals is staggering. In the 40 or so years of the catfish business in the US, catfish producers (not breeders) have managed to breed strains that are susceptible to every known disease, have as many as 15 extra fins, have heads 40% bigger than normal, and even cannot be caught with a seine. Fish breeding by default instead of by design. For the last decade or so, I’ve been breeding a “more catchable” strain of largemouth bass. Catchability is a trait in bass as well as in catfish. The trait is catchability and does not require inbreeding to bring it about. More catchable bass are better suited to the purpose. And a buncha other stuff, like blue catfish, and hybrid buffalo fish, and coppernose bluegills, and threadfin shad, and tilapia, and …. Anyhow, your point is well taken, I don’t breed longfins and don’t care for them. I do breed and sell. I don’t only care about “what sells”. I could make a great deal more money by converting about half of my facility into longfin production. A pond grade longfin sells for 300% more than a pond grade koi and is about the same cost to produce. There is a much bigger market for longfins in the US. If I were really only interested in breeding what sells, I’d be breeding only longfins. I wouldn’t have to compete with highly bred animals from 100 year old breeding farms. It would be ever so much less difficult for me with respect to finances. A feller from Texas doesn’t have to be Japanese to sell his longfin fish. Anybody can get a couple of longfins and raise a batch that will sell without having to sort and throw away most of the offspring. No judges out there setting standards, no large population of stunning individuals with which to compete, a much less difficult landscape than that for a Texas koi breeder. If it were only for the money, I’d have a farm full of longfins. But of course, I don’t know much about breeding, though. Brett

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Dont dis my fish!!! Ingrid List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List for care of goldfish go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/

I dont understand how someone can push Dandys fish and keep mutts ;P couldnt resist….. — Ken Arnold, ICQ # 1028648 KenCo Fish & Supplies Pond and Aquarium fish, Shipping plants/fish etc. a specialty Imported & domestic Koi,Goldfish,Orandas, Tropicals,exotics, Piranhas etc.

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But of course, I don’t know much about breeding, though. Meant breeders, but okay, if you say so. Corne1 Huth - http://40th.com/ Bullet database engines/servers 3.1 Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

Makes more sense to me now. In that context, you are sadly correct in (most) of your assumptions. Brett

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They are deformed and fly in the face of true animal breeding

tenets. By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed.

*** What do you mean exactly by deformed as it’s only the fins that are elongated. Propogating physical deformities does not fit that definition (for me). I feel very much the same about goldfish. *** I agree. Some GF are so deformed (body and fins) that they look like freaks and surely are a burden to themselves. The “breed anything for money” mentality doesn’t work well in horses,

dogs, or fish. *** It must work… look at all the dog breeds – talk about deformities! And the breeders find buyers. OTOH, I have seen one or two longfins that were atractive in thier

own way. But, they are not koi. Koi do not have long fins.

*** If they’re not koi what are they? They look like koi except for the fins. Aren’t they a cross between the long finned carp and the koi? Aren’t they fertile? They have thier place in the ornamental fish world, and are even beginning to show up with thier own category in koi shows. However, I’ve seen time and again, a longfin disqualified and

not be judged as a koi, because it is not one. *** I see. But to those of us not interested in shows or $5,000.00 koi for our ponds they are quite beautiful. Speaking only for myself, I like to watch them swim around my ponds. I’ve even had to be a longfin judge in the past at fish shows because

most certified judges will not judge them. *** Why? Couldn’t be “snobbery” could it? :O) I know they are popular in the US.

*** They’re VERY popular here in TN. In Japan, even the breeder that did the most to develop the breed has given up and sold his breeding stock a few years back. As far as I know, most longfins

are now only bred in the US where there seems to be a strong market.

*** Probably a market among the non show crowd such as myself, where health and beauty come before “what wins at the shows.” You won’t find any coming from my farm.

*** You’re in business… us every day ponders are not. I must admit, though, I have been experimenting with “normal” koi out of longfin lineage as breeding stock for stronger koi.

*** Sounds good… you’re adding new genes. Longfins are tough and grow fast and big, all good qualities which would be a benefit in koi. I’ve not been doing it long enough to see if it

might be working. *** I also like the BF’s slimmer build as it makes them appear even more graceful and elegant. The quality I’ve seen this year far surpasses what was avalible even 2 years ago. — Carol… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Brett

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If you waited to adopt BF koi here you better plan to live a few hundred years. — Carol… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Koi for money? I partake in the Jan Jordan Fish Adoption program.

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They are deformed and fly in the face of true animal breeding tenets. By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed. *** What do you mean exactly by deformed as it’s only the fins that are elongated.

That is a deformity. You would not find such an animal surviving outside of captivity. Propogating physical deformities does not fit that definition (for me). I feel very much the same about goldfish. *** I agree. Some GF are so deformed (body and fins) that they look like freaks and surely are a burden to themselves.

They are. I like goldfish even less than longfins, with the exception of sarassa comets. I find them very attractive. The “breed anything for money” mentality doesn’t work well in horses, dogs, or fish. *** It must work… look at all the dog breeds – talk about deformities! And the breeders find buyers.

You’re right, it works well with respect to finances, not with respect to biology. How long is a “papillon” going to live outside of a climate controlled kennel (or home) without a highly regulated diet? Same is true for those “bulbous eyed” goldfish. The first osprey that comes along is going to have a hard choice between them. Probly catch and eat both in the same day. OTOH, I have seen one or two longfins that were atractive in thier own way. But, they are not koi. Koi do not have long fins. *** If they’re not koi what are they?

They are longfinned carp with colored bodies. They can’t be koi as they do not fit the requirements for the standards of the breed. Saying a longfinned carp is a koi is like saying donkey is a horse. They look like koi except for the fins. Aren’t they a cross between the long finned carp and the koi? Aren’t they fertile?

Yes to both counts. Still doesn’t make them a koi. You can say, “A koi is a carp, and a longfin is a carp, as far as it goes, so is a common carp.” You can’t say a common carp or a longfin is a koi. Longfins and koi are both common carps, or at least belong to the same genus and species as common carps (Cyprinus carpio). They have thier place in the ornamental fish world, and are even beginning to show up with thier own category in koi shows. However, I’ve seen time and again, a longfin disqualified and not be judged as a koi, because it is not one. *** I see. But to those of us not interested in shows or $5,000.00 koi for our ponds they are quite beautiful. Speaking only for myself, I like to watch them swim around my ponds.

I got no problem with that at all. I just say I wouldn’t like seeing them swimming around in my ponds. As to fish shows, I’ve many, many friends that show fish they bought from me and others, and win prizes, and payed as little as $30 for the fish. A quick tale. At one show a few years back I was asked, “what is the difference between the grand and reserve champions?” Both were very good kohaku. I knew the history behind both fish, one of them (the reserve champ, alas, was from my hatchery) the other from a famous Japanese hatchery. I thought a moment and told the person, “The difference is about $49,925.” The one fish had been purchased for $50K a few weeks before the show. The other from me for $75 three years earlier. I ask, “Who was the better fish keeper?” I’ve even had to be a longfin judge in the past at fish shows because most certified judges will not judge them. *** Why? Couldn’t be “snobbery” could it? :O)

Well…actually, a judge has the authority to DQ any animal which does not fulfill the requirments of the breed. You won’t find a dog judge judging a Heinz 57 as a poodle. Same is true in koi. The judge is only going to judge koi, he/she will not judge a striped bass or a longfin as a koi. I know they are popular in the US. *** They’re VERY popular here in TN. In Japan, even the breeder that did the most to develop the breed has given up and sold his breeding stock a few years back. As far as I know, most longfins are now only bred in the US where there seems to be a strong market. *** Probably a market among the non show crowd such as myself, where health and beauty come before “what wins at the shows.”

That is indeed the market for almost all koi. If I had to make my farm operate on the income from “show quality” fish it would have been out of business long ago. My customers are interested in health and beauty, also. You won’t find any coming from my farm. *** You’re in business… us every day ponders are not.

I keep telling myself that. My partner thinks we are BIG hobbiests. I must admit, though, I have been experimenting with “normal” koi out of longfin lineage as breeding stock for stronger koi. *** Sounds good… you’re adding new genes.

Always looking to breed a better, stronger animal. Like you say, “Health and beauty”, in that order. I see no point in trying to sell a fish so highly bred (and inbred) which looks remarkable, but anybody short of an expert can’t keep alive. I continue to try new things, some are my own ideas, some are those of my Japanese mentors. Longfins are tough and grow fast and big, all good qualities which would be a benefit in koi. I’ve not been doing it long enough to see if it might be working. *** I also like the BF’s slimmer build as it makes them appear even more graceful and elegant. The quality I’ve seen this year far surpasses what was avalible even 2 years ago.

Folks are getting to where a dull brown fish with long fins isn’t enough anymore. I’ve a friend in South Texas that breeds the most beautiful longfins I’ve seen. The problem for his stunning specimens is finding a proper market that will bear the price he must get for such specimens. If you think about it for a moment, longfins are primarily going into the “low end” market where fish must be priced inexpensively in order to sell. There are not many “longfin collectors” looking to purchase very high quality stock costing $hundreds or even thousands as there are in koi. He does like I do, enjoys his very best specimens himself as he has difficulty getting what they are worth (to him) from the market. Even good longfin shouldn’t be sold cheap. Brett – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Carol… Brett

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Was it silver (gin) or platinum (white) Ogon (solid color) ? It really depends on where you are, here on Canada’s west coast you could expect to pay about $200 depending on quality, show koi going for thousands. If you really love it then pay what you think it’s worth to you. Dayleen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp. It was all silver (Actually shined from the sun at the bottom of a 5′ pond) with no other coloring, and the fins were really large and in perfect condition.(I’m using my own opinion on this) The Koi was 12 or 13″ long. What in your opinion would be a fair price on a Koi like this? TIA

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I was given one “similar” to this and the same size… they called it a ghost koi and the retail price was $125.00. I bought a real small one later on for $10.00. — Carol… “It’s not hard to meet expenses; they’re everywhere.” Seen a Butterfly Koi today that really looked sharp.

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Thanks, you all made me feel better of my purchase, I wasn’t sure if I did good or not!!

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I recently bought a yellow butterfly with very little black shading -17 inches long for $200 at a retail store here in Santa Cruz, CA. Got tired of lurking! — Barry

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If yall are buying “Butterfly Koi”, you’re getting ripped off even if you are getting $10 to take the fish away. Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph. Brett

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Last week I was at Petsmart and saw the a gorgeous butterfly koi–all shiny bright yellow with black trim, about 5 inches long for 3 bucks.

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Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph.

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Koi for money? I partake in the Jan Jordan Fish Adoption program. k30 and the water gardening labradors REC.PONDS INFORMAL FAQ PAGE http://hometown.aol.com/k30a/myhomepage/writing.html

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are getting $10 to take the fish away. Butterfly koi, not even koi, harrrumph. Brett

NO way…. I know what I like and I like butterfly koi….. they are prettier and showier.. vj

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By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed. Propogating physical deformities does not fit that definition

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Dont dis my fish!!! Ingrid List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List for care of goldfish go to http://puregold.aquaria.net/

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But of course, I don’t know much about breeding, though. Meant breeders, but okay, if you say so. Corne1 Huth - http://40th.com/ Bullet database engines/servers 3.1 Win32-WinCE-OS2-Linux+

Makes more sense to me now. In that context, you are sadly correct in (most) of your assumptions. Brett

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They are deformed and fly in the face of true animal breeding

tenets. By definition, a breeder is working to improve the breed.

dogs, or fish. *** It must work… look at all the dog breeds – talk about deformities! And the breeders find buyers. OTOH, I have seen one or two longfins that were atractive in thier

own way. But, they are not koi. Koi do not have long fins.

most certified judges will not judge them. *** Why? Couldn’t be “snobbery” could it? :O) I know they are popular in the US.

*** They’re VERY popular here in TN. In Japan, even the breeder that did the most to develop the breed has given up and sold his breeding stock a few years back. As far as I know, most longfins

are now only bred in the US where there seems to be a strong market.

*** Probably a market among the non show crowd such as myself, where health and beauty come before “what wins at the shows.” You won’t find any coming from my farm.

*** You’re in business… us every day ponders are not. I must admit, though, I have been experimenting with “normal” koi out of longfin lineage as breeding stock for stronger koi.

*** Sounds good… you’re adding new genes. Longfins are tough and grow fast and big, all good qualities which would be a benefit in koi. I’ve not been doing it long enough to see if it

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Any bass fisherman in Wa?largemouth bass sketches

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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Dan, if you live in Van, why don’t you try the okanagan? Osoyoos lake has large and small mouth. largemouth bass sketches Vaseaux lake has large to a reported 12 lbs!!, and it’s only 20 min from osoyoos. I am from Rossland B.C. and I fish at Duck lake near Creston. I have caught them to 8 lbs in this lake. Since you already have a B.C. license, why don’t you make the 4 hr drive to the okanagan? If you would like to fish Duck lake,largemouth bass sketches let me know and i’ll steer you straight.

I’ve heard abut the largemouth lakes in the Okanogan but thats a little far for me for day trips. I prefer to throw all my stuff in the trunk and head out at a moments notice largemouth bass sketches NW Washington is close enough for that. I will probably make a trip out to the Okanagan for a couple days this summer though. I’ll email you for some tips if I do

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Dan, There are some good smaller lakes in North Skagit and Whatcom counties that would be suited for tubin’. Try Lizard and Palmer for starters. Also, a larger lake, Whatcom, is GREAT for smallies.largemouth bass sketches I used to live up north there but its been awhile. Grab a local map for additional lakes. Good luck this season!

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largemouth bass sketches if you live in Van, why don’t you try the okanagan? Osoyoos lake has large and small mouth. Vaseaux lake has large to a reported 12 lbs!!, and it’s only 20 min from osoyoos. I am from Rossland B.C. and I fish at Duck lake near Creston. I have caught them to 8 lbs in this lake. Since you already have a B.C. license, why don’t you make the 4 hr drive to the okanagan? If you would like to fish Duck lake, let me know and i’ll steer you straight.largemouth bass sketches Try Lake Terrell near Bellingham, its a small shallow weedy lake that warms quickly in spring and has some big largemouth bass. Oky777 You bet there are bassers in Wa! Come visit our site at http://members.xoom.com/keypenbass/homepage.htm E-mail me and let me know the areas in Wa you fish. Look forward to hearing from you and trading info this season! I’m just in Vancouver BC and I’d like to try some bass fishing in NorthWest Washington. We have some good smallmouth lakes here but they are all on Vancouver Island and each trip costs me at least $70 in ferry fees =:O Can you (or anyone) recommend some lakes in Wa (especially the NW) thats getting some recent action?? I fish from a float tube so smaller sized lakes would be nice. Dan

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Any bass fisherman in Wa?

Yep, I’m just south of Olympia.

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You bet there are bassers in Wa! Come visit our site at http://members.xoom.com/keypenbass/homepage.htm E-mail me and let me know the areas in Wa you fish. Look forward to hearing from you and trading info this season!

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Try Lake Terrell near Bellingham, its a small shallow weedy lake that warms quickly in spring and has some big largemouth bass. Oky777

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You bet there are bassers in Wa! Come visit our site at http://members.xoom.com/keypenbass/homepage.htm E-mail me and let me know the areas in Wa you fish. Look forward to hearing from you and trading info this season! I’m just in Vancouver BC and I’d like to try some bass fishing in NorthWest Washington. We have some good smallmouth lakes here but they are all on Vancouver Island and each trip costs me at least $70 in ferry fees =:O Can you (or anyone) recommend some lakes in Wa (especially the NW) thats getting some recent action?? I fish from a float tube so smaller sized lakes would be nice. Dan

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Any bass fisherman in Wa?

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West Nile Spraying In largemouth bass photos Central Park Tonight. Will it kill the fish ?

admin — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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I meant to offend no one with my remark,largemouth bass photos which was aimed at the Classic only. I believe that humor can help lessen or even heal many ills, just as I believe over-sensitivity and over-defensiveness may be the most dangerous malady we face as a growing population. My remark was prompted simply by the reference made in the original post to fishing in Central Park, which until then I didn’t know really existed.

Why not?largemouth bass photos I fish a lot of waters in highly populated, developed areas, and anytime I fish where lots of people pass by, I always get questions like, “Are there actually any fish in there?”. Sometimes I like to say, “Of course; who told you there were no fish in there?”. I don’t know what the waters are like in the cities closest to where you live, but here in NYC and it’s environs, just about every permanent body of largemouth bass photos fresh water has a largemouth bass population (as well as bullheads, suckers, sunfish, and yellow perch).

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No offense was taken. and there us great fishing in Central Park. Lake Prospect Anglers largemouth bass photos I meant to offend no one with my remark, which was aimed at the Classic only. I believe that humor can help lessen or even heal many ills, just as I believe over-sensitivity and over-defensiveness may be the most dangerous malady we face as a growing population. My remark was prompted simply by the reference made in the original post to fishing in Central Park, which until then I didn’t know really existed. — ~Bob Rickard Vote early and often this November; the country you save may be your own. Bob, This really is not a laughing matter that needs a wise a__ answer this deadly virus is called West Nile like esephalitus is spread by mosquitos and birds, it is spreading rapidly to the north of the city and has moved as far north now as Orange County NY in the Hudson Valley and is expected to possibly make it as far this year as the northern Catskill Region and maybe as far west as the Poconos in PA. The pesticide they sprayed last year in NYC was about as bad as the virus in its health effects and it did kill some fish. This year they are trying a new pesticide that is said to be safer. This may not effect you now but in the future if it does would you want some perch jerker making jokes about it.

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problem with such a Classic being held in Central and other NYC Parks is that I am told that the NYC P&R Commish is not a big fan of sihing,as per my local State D.E.C. official this past Friday. cheers to all. largemouth bass photos — Lake Prospect Anglers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He can speak for himself, but it was obvious to me that Bob was making a joke about where the next Bassmaster’s Classic will be held, not the environmental damage that might be caused by pesticides or the danger to anglers or their quarry. — Go Fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales. Columbia, SC Lake Murray Bob, This really is not a laughing matter that needs a wise a__ answer this deadly virus is called West Nile like esephalitus is spread by mosquitos and birds, it is spreading rapidly to the north of the city and has moved as far north now as Orange County NY in the Hudson Valley and is expected to possibly make it as far this year as the northern Catskill Region and maybe as far west as the Poconos in PA. The pesticide they sprayed last year in NYC was about as bad as the virus in its health effects and it did kill some fish. This year they are trying a new pesticide that is said to be safer. This may not effect you now but in the future if it does would you want some perch jerker making jokes about it. — Scott E. BASSINinNY’s Fishing Orange County NY http://here.at/bassininny Darn! This could affect next year’s Classic.

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Today the City of NY said it must immediatley spray Central Park tonight, cause they found bugs carrying the virus (they claim). I have just spoken to some anglers on the phone who wonder if it will affect the fish in the Park Lake and Harlem Meer. We believe (like last year) that they will eventually end up spraying all the City Parks. last summer when they did, fishing slow downed greatly in Central Park, Clove Lakes, Wolfes Pond, Prospect and Van Courtlandt. keep your fingers crossed ladies and gents. cause if this stuff pollutes the City Lakes and Ponds and kills the fish, time for we NYC Anglers to take a stand and go on Tv/Radio,and to the NYS D.E.C.. TIGHT LINES. Mike,Lake Prospect Anglers.

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Darn! This could affect next year’s Classic. — ~Bob Rickard Vote early and often this November; the country you save may be your own.

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Today the City of NY said it must immediatley spray Central Park tonight, cause they found bugs carrying the virus (they claim). I have just spoken to some anglers on the phone who wonder if it will affect the fish in the Park Lake and Harlem Meer. We believe (like last year) that they will eventually end up spraying all the City Parks. last summer when they did, fishing slow downed greatly in Central Park, Clove Lakes, Wolfes Pond, Prospect and Van Courtlandt. keep your fingers crossed ladies and gents. cause if this stuff pollutes the City Lakes and Ponds and kills the fish, time for we NYC Anglers to take a stand and go on Tv/Radio,and to the NYS D.E.C.. TIGHT LINES. Mike,Lake Prospect Anglers.

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Bob, This really is not a laughing matter that needs a wise a__ answer this deadly virus is called West Nile like esephalitus is spread by mosquitos and birds, it is spreading rapidly to the north of the city and has moved as far north now as Orange County NY in the Hudson Valley and is expected to possibly make it as far this year as the northern Catskill Region and maybe as far west as the Poconos in PA. The pesticide they sprayed last year in NYC was about as bad as the virus in its health effects and it did kill some fish. This year they are trying a new pesticide that is said to be safer. This may not effect you now but in the future if it does would you want some perch jerker making jokes about it. — Scott E. BASSINinNY’s Fishing Orange County NY http://here.at/bassininny – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Darn! This could affect next year’s Classic.

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Scott, question, how does the virus affect people, and how many folks are being affected? Hopefully the new pesticide will kill the bugs and not the fishes, other wild life or people. I’m sure Bob didn’t mean to sound insensitive. Sure it is a serious problem, but sometimes not being directly involved with something, it doesn’t have the same impact. I don’t know Bob, but I don’t believe for a second that he or anyone in this NG would find it humorous that this virus is affecting people. If it had been a rotenone spill, everyone might have found his joke easier to take, even you. I hate to think that we can’t see the humor in Bob’s joke, without thinking that Bob, or anyone else for that matter, would want even a single person to suffer from this virus. Bassman Duane Knight

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bob, This really is not a laughing matter that needs a wise a__ answer this deadly virus is called West Nile like esephalitus is spread by mosquitos and birds, it is spreading rapidly to the north of the city and has moved as far north now as Orange County NY in the Hudson Valley and is expected to possibly make it as far this year as the northern Catskill Region and maybe as far west as the Poconos in PA. The pesticide they sprayed last year in NYC was about as bad as the virus in its health effects and it did kill some fish. This year they are trying a new pesticide that is said to be safer. This may not effect you now but in the future if it does would you want some perch jerker making jokes about it. — Scott E. BASSINinNY’s Fishing Orange County NY http://here.at/bassininny Darn! This could affect next year’s Classic.

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how does the virus affect people,

It usually kills them. As in dead. RichZ

Red Shad Worms..fishing boats fiberglass..gotta love 'em!

admin — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:00:00 +0000

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Like what Bill was saying.fishing boats fiberglass Most of the time, a speedo does not work because the port in the lower unit is clogged with debris. My old Yamaha seemed to clog every 3-4 outing. Usually, the lower unit has a small hole that picks up the water presure to determine speed. On the Yamaha, a 1/16″ drill bit just fit into the hole. I turned it around in the hole a few times got out the crude and it started working again. I haven’t had any trouble with my Optimax so far.fishing boats fiberglass One other thing to look at however. I had the coweling wear a hole in the hose that sent the presure to the gauge. Don’t care how clean the port is if the hose leaks like a son of a gun the gauge won’t work. Check there as well. fishing boats fiberglass Great question on the flushing method, can’t wait to see the responses. Took my youngest fishing today on a local lake (the Wolf River is perilously low!) and found out the bass were biting on red shad colored Zoom worms…. sure felt good to lay into a bass again! But had to wrestle the boat onto the trailer at the landing due to low water…..just couldn’t get it to line up properly unless the trailer was fully submerged, and had to push it in the right direction as my daughter (with much fear and trepidation) manned the gas pedal on the Jeep. fishing boats fiberglass On another note; looks like the lower unit on the Merc will have to come off and I’ll have to change the water pump impellor… I’m not getting anything out of the tell-tale until I hit about 1500 RPM. Also need to flush the speed pickup, as I’m reading 0 mph. Anyone got a tip for flushing the speed pickup circuit? I’m thinking of using a large hypodermic syringe full of clean water and maybe detergent/water mix…..

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Use a drill bit of the proper size. twist it with your fingers and it will clean out the crud. Do not put it in a drill and try it. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Great question on the flushing method, can’t wait to see the responses. Took my youngest fishing today on a local lake (the Wolf River is perilously low!) and found out the bass were biting on red shad colored Zoom worms…. sure felt good to lay into a bass again! But had to wrestle the boat onto the trailer at the landing due to low water…..just couldn’t get it to line up properly unless the trailer was fully submerged, and had to push it in the right direction as my daughter (with much fear and trepidation) manned the gas pedal on the Jeep. On another note; looks like the lower unit on the Merc will have to come off and I’ll have to change the water pump impellor… I’m not getting anything out of the tell-tale until I hit about 1500 RPM. Also need to flush the speed pickup, as I’m reading 0 mph. Anyone got a tip for flushing the speed pickup circuit? I’m thinking of using a large hypodermic syringe full of clean water and maybe detergent/water mix….. Tight lines, Y’all! Sopping wet, but happy, B3– Robert E. Longshore — http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Great question on the flushing method, can’t wait to see the responses. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Took my youngest fishing today on a local lake (the Wolf River is perilously low!) and found out the bass were biting on red shad colored Zoom worms…. sure felt good to lay into a bass again! But had to wrestle the boat onto the trailer at the landing due to low water…..just couldn’t get it to line up properly unless the trailer was fully submerged, and had to push it in the right direction as my daughter (with much fear and trepidation) manned the gas pedal on the Jeep. On another note; looks like the lower unit on the Merc will have to come off and I’ll have to change the water pump impellor… I’m not getting anything out of the tell-tale until I hit about 1500 RPM. Also need to flush the speed pickup, as I’m reading 0 mph. Anyone got a tip for flushing the speed pickup circuit? I’m thinking of using a large hypodermic syringe full of clean water and maybe detergent/water mix….. Tight lines, Y’all! Sopping wet, but happy, B3– Robert E. Longshore

– http://members.home.net/jbarton248

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Took my youngest fishing today on a local lake (the Wolf River is perilously low!) and found out the bass were biting on red shad colored Zoom worms…. sure felt good to lay into a bass again! But had to wrestle the boat onto the trailer at the landing due to low water…..just couldn’t get it to line up properly unless the trailer was fully submerged, and had to push it in the right direction as my daughter (with much fear and trepidation) manned the gas pedal on the Jeep. On another note; looks like the lower unit on the Merc will have to come off and I’ll have to change the water pump impellor… I’m not getting anything out of the tell-tale until I hit about 1500 RPM. Also need to flush the speed pickup, as I’m reading 0 mph. Anyone got a tip for flushing the speed pickup circuit? I’m thinking of using a large hypodermic syringe full of clean water and maybe detergent/water mix….. Tight lines, Y’all! Sopping wet, but happy, B3– Robert E. Longshore